The Patriot on now
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bilko2

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1,693 posts

263 months

Sunday 26th February 2006
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Good bit, realy good bit comming up within 5 mins. This film is brilliant!

Andy Mac

73,668 posts

286 months

Sunday 26th February 2006
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Good film... Load of bollox, but good film all the same.

fidgits

17,202 posts

260 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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what utter predictable crap...

Eric Mc

125,904 posts

296 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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I haven't seen it but it was severly lambasted by historians.

The writer Freddie Forsythe was particularly scathing.

Jaglover

46,845 posts

266 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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Eric Mc said:
I haven't seen it but it was severly lambasted by historians.


Which is why I haven't bothered to see it.

I'm tired of Anti-British propaganda masquerading as history.

roadsweeper

3,790 posts

305 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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Utter shte. They incorprate acts that were actually perpetrated by the Nazies during WWII to inflame the anger and shame respectively of self-righteous ignorant Americans and half-wit Brits. Gibson has a history of appearing in anti-British films and I personally refuse to pay to watch anything he's in.

FourWheelDrift

92,393 posts

315 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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This is a review site for the Patriot. All pretty scathing.

www.americanrevwar.homestead.com/files/PATRIOT.HTM

jimbeaux

33,791 posts

262 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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roadsweeper said:
Utter shte. They incorprate acts that were actually perpetrated by the Nazies during WWII to inflame the anger and shame respectively of self-righteous ignorant Americans and half-wit Brits. Gibson has a history of appearing in anti-British films and I personally refuse to pay to watch anything he's in.


Was Gibson born in OZ or just grew up there? Does he have it in for the Brits? If so, why?

Jaglover

46,845 posts

266 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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jimbeaux said:
Was Gibson born in OZ or just grew up there? Does he have it in for the Brits? If so, why?


Because he's a convict with a chip on his shoulder.

Trooper2

6,676 posts

262 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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jimbeaux said:
roadsweeper said:
Utter shte. They incorprate acts that were actually perpetrated by the Nazies during WWII to inflame the anger and shame respectively of self-righteous ignorant Americans and half-wit Brits. Gibson has a history of appearing in anti-British films and I personally refuse to pay to watch anything he's in.


Was Gibson born in OZ or just grew up there? Does he have it in for the Brits? If so, why?



I believe Mel Gibson was U.S. born but had to move to Australia to get his first acting jobs and once he gained some notoriety he was able to get roles in the states.



Edit:I just check IMDb and he was born 3 January 1956 in Peekskill, New York, USA.

>> Edited by Trooper2 on Monday 27th February 16:38

ehyouwhat

4,606 posts

249 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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I bought this movie on DVD in my uni days when it first came out, an impulse buy not remotely based on the storyline (which I had no clue about).

The day I was going to watch the film I saw a review on telly, where they ripped the film to shreds and said it was historically-inaccurate and unfair on the British. I then went on IMDB.com and read much, MUCH more of the same.

As I really would get very mad just by watching a film like that, I promptly traded the DVD at CeX for Spaceballs: the Movie. Much more like it

FourWheelDrift

92,393 posts

315 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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ehyouwhat said:
I promptly traded the DVD at CeX for Spaceballs: the Movie. Much more like it


And historically accurate too.

Trooper2

6,676 posts

262 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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Historical inaccuracies aside (I don't remember it being labeled a documentary) it's an good movie and very funny as well. I liked the French soldier:

stepping out of his tent- "If I die today........at least I will die well dressed".

Jaglover

46,845 posts

266 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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Trooper2 said:
Historical inaccuracies aside (I don't remember it being labeled a documentary) it's an good movie and very funny as well. I liked the French soldier:

stepping out of his tent- "If I die today........at least I will die well dressed".


Perhaps that new Turkish movie, which depicts American GI's in Iraq slaughtering hundreds of civilians for fun, is a good movie and funny in parts.

Would you pay to watch it though?

ehyouwhat

4,606 posts

249 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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FourWheelDrift said:
ehyouwhat said:
I promptly traded the DVD at CeX for Spaceballs: the Movie. Much more like it


And historically accurate too.



"Ludicrous speed? Sir, we've never gone that fast before. I don't know if this ship can take it?"

"What's the matter Colonel Sanders...chicken?"

Class!

I admit that I don't buy or watch movies solely for their historical accuracy, but equally I don't like to watch films that spin a load of lies about an event that DID happen, and as such invoke an emotional response from me. A film which innaccurately has a pop at the British is not the kind of film I want to watch or support, emotionally or financially.

Trooper2

6,676 posts

262 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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Jaglover said:
Trooper2 said:
Historical inaccuracies aside (I don't remember it being labeled a documentary) it's an good movie and very funny as well. I liked the French soldier:

stepping out of his tent- "If I die today........at least I will die well dressed".


Perhaps that new Turkish movie, which depicts American GI's in Iraq slaughtering hundreds of civilians for fun, is a good movie and funny in parts.

Would you pay to watch it though?



Yes, I probably would as I'm not one of those who thinks the U.S. has no skeletons in it's closet.

>> Edited by Trooper2 on Monday 27th February 18:07

Jonna_Rex

1,500 posts

262 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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I´ve seen the film and the reruns and the reruns one after the other...

simpo two

93,063 posts

296 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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Saw five minutes. Heroic Gibson gets the better of stupid Englishmen using dummy prisoners. Next time, don't blame us if we kill them all.

Yawn.

roadsweeper

3,790 posts

305 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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jimbeaux said:
roadsweeper said:
Utter shte. They incorprate acts that were actually perpetrated by the Nazies during WWII to inflame the anger and shame respectively of self-righteous ignorant Americans and half-wit Brits. Gibson has a history of appearing in anti-British films and I personally refuse to pay to watch anything he's in.


Was Gibson born in OZ or just grew up there? Does he have it in for the Brits? If so, why?

I believe a previous poster has answered the first question. I don't think Gibson has actually outright admitted to having a problem with Brits, but the question has been put to him in at least one interview and he didn't take the opportunity to categorically deny it. As for why he has a problem with us, I have no idea, unless we shot his son and then locked his people in a church and burned it down?

I have a problem generally with Hollywood renditions of historical events involving the British. Saving Private Ryan depicted WWII as an entirely American endeavour with the only reference to Britain being a disparaging comment about one of our greatest commanders. Don't even get me started on the bad guy almost always being British (I take that as a compliment because many Americans have the misguided idea we're all clever!) or U571!

I see you live in Lousiana by the way - a great state, especially for food and partying! My (now ex) girlfriend used to live there so I've been a few times. I'm glad I saw New Orleans before it was flattened - she lost her apartment and possessions to Katrina.

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

265 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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While I don't rate the film, I have to say its beautifully shot. I also quite liked that they showed what cannonballs really do.