My tv has gone a bit funny..
My tv has gone a bit funny..
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miniandy

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268 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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I have just noticed that my TV is distorting the image on the left of the screen about an inch from the edge. It changes the colour from a shade of blue, through to a shade of green, to red.. you get the picture.

Anyway, does it need replacing? Or is there a way to fix it? It's a 28 inch Philips widescreen, circa 2002.

Cheers

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

262 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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Make sure you havent got any big magnets next to the screen

Failing that, prepare to go HD

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

286 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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Either you're too close to the North Pole, or you need to drink less.....

dutch paul

131 posts

264 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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A one inch wide strip of masking tape up the side of the screen should cure it.

You`re welcome

simpo two

93,063 posts

296 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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dutch paul said:
A one inch wide strip of masking tape up the side of the screen should cure it.

Yep, it'll just be 15:9 instead of 16:9.

pesty

42,655 posts

287 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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where have you placed your Hi fi speakers?

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

265 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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The mesh that focusses the electron beam onto the phosphors has become magnetised.

It will sort itself out eventually, but just make sure you've no magnets near the telly.

dutch paul

131 posts

264 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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simpo two said:
dutch paul said:
A one inch wide strip of masking tape up the side of the screen should cure it.

Yep, it'll just be 15:9 instead of 16:9.

A horizontal strip across the top should even it out

miniandy

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268 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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Thanks for the advice. Some more helpful than others!

I only have a sub that sits behind the tv - I'm guessing that it's shielded? It's been there for over a year and a half..

mcflurry

9,192 posts

284 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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miniandy said:
Thanks for the advice. Some more helpful than others!

I only have a sub that sits behind the tv - I'm guessing that it's shielded? It's been there for over a year and a half..


Was it moved when the floor was vacumned?

miniandy

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268 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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Yeah yesterday, I moved it to get in at the broadband...

sadako

7,080 posts

269 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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You could potentially need to get the TV degaussed.

Basically a CRT works like this.

You have a big vaccum filled tube. The screen is at one end. At the other you have a thing like three light bulbs at the end with a big metal ring by each one. The lightbulby things have a lot of electrons running through it when it gets hot. The big metal ring has a monolithic positive charge on it - in the realms of static electricity. The electrons are drawn off by the attractive force. A good number of these shoot straight through the hole in the middle and are projected towards the screen. These are the electron guns.

There are three streams produced by these, one for each colour. Left like this you would see a white dot in the middle of the screen. How does this turn into a picture you ask?

Magnets. The streams of electrons can be bent by a parralel magnetic field. This is done by a couple pairs of helmholt's coils which are like a very precise electromagnet strapped around the tube one pair moves it up and down, one moves it left and right. When running normally the beams are dragged across the screen in lines running across the screen. As a bit of a cheat it does alternate lines to make the screen flash twice as often for each picture. This makes it look smoother to the eye. This is called "interlacing"

The tricky bit is colour and this is the bit you are interested in. The screen is covered in phosphorous spots that shine a different colour when hit by the beam from the electron guns. The guns turn on and off as the magnetic field moves the beam around to draw the picture. To make it so the colours dont merge there is a mesh screen behind the phosphorous bits aligned so only the blue gun can shine on the blue dots and so on. This means that you get a colour picture and not a distorted mess.

The thing that does mess this up is magnetic fields that are not as precise as those made by the helmholt's coils. Things like badly placed speakers are a good example. These might move the beam just enough so electrons from the blue gun start hitting the red dots, and so on. This gives that lovely rainbow effect we all hate on dodgy tellys.

"I took the magnet away but the rainbow is still there! You lie!"

Congratulations. You just magnetised the metal mesh screen inside the tube. You now need to call the TV engineer out to look like a pillock walking slowly towards the TV with a gadget, while whirling it around. This is a degausser. It produces an altenating magnetic field designed to demagnetise stuff. The engineer is walking slowly towards the TV in this wierd way because doing it wrong will make it worse. You might want to not have any tapes or discs in the room at the time.

Worse case scenario. The mesh screen has become dislodged and is permanantly out of alignment. Not alot you can do about that.

Hope this is useful.

scorp

8,783 posts

260 months

Monday 27th February 2006
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Same thing happened to my old tv, a bloke come round with a demagnetising device of some kind, it went click, tv went back to normal.

406tm

3,636 posts

284 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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Most modern TV's have a degausing circuit built in. Switch it off on the TV not the remote and that should cure it

HTH

Dave

406tm

Jon C

3,214 posts

278 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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miniandy said:

I only have a sub that sits behind the tv - I'm guessing that it's shielded? It's been there for over a year and a half..


Do the Ministry of Defence know about this?

Tonto

2,983 posts

279 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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miniandy said:
Thanks for the advice. Some more helpful than others!

I only have a sub that sits behind the tv - I'm guessing that it's shielded? It's been there for over a year and a half..


Subs have big to very big magnets in the speaker. Friend of mine put his sub near his TV and it never recovered!
New (powered) subs tend to be shielded though.

Jonna_Rex

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262 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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mybrainhurts said:
Either you're too close to the North Pole, or you need to drink less.....



Glasgow??

miniandy

Original Poster:

1,512 posts

268 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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sadako said:
Basically a CRT works like this...
Hope this is useful.


Very. Thanks for taking the time to explain it.

I have moved the sub backwards a little bit, turned the telly off completely and back on again, and it seems to be back to normal..