Bendy Buses a 'trial'
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simonrockman

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7,136 posts

286 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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Apparently that nob Ken, at his fan club rally this week said that "the jury is still out on bendy buses", and that they were still on trial as we'd only had them for three years. 300 buses for 3 years isn't a trial. 10 buses for six months is a trial. These buses cost £200k each.

He only said that because they are so hugely unpopular. I even had a senior director of TfL say that he was switching from using the bus to the tube because the routemaster he used to take was replaced with a bendy bus.

I bet Ken only wanted them as land grab to reduce the amount of road space for cars.

Simon

ProPlus

3,810 posts

271 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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i don't get it, what is wrong with the bendy buses??

I have used them for years in Leeds and don't see what is wrong with them compared to normal buses...

timmy30

9,325 posts

258 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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ProPlus said:
i don't get it, what is wrong with the bendy buses??

I have used them for years in Leeds and don't see what is wrong with them compared to normal buses...


I think it's something to do with them being crap?

Can't take alot of the sharper corners of Londons streets and take far longer for everyone to get on and off, the routemasters had a conductor who'd come aorund and check you're ticket etc.

wik

809 posts

295 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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In London they completely block junctions due to their size and the road layout. Add to that several have caught fire.
And there are issues with them being easier to jump on and ride for free. Some journalist spent all riding on one without being asked for a ticket.

GasMonkey

475 posts

252 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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So you have not seen the 'ever seen a bendi-bus do a tank slapper' link ?

wouldnt fancy bieng in the back of that bus

www.metacafe.com/watch/71801/lefortovo_tunnel_of_death/

paulhol

482 posts

272 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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They work great in Leeds, but there are still some parts of the city where they take up the entire road to get around corners. It's either those or the double deckers with the maniac drivers trying to tip them in their efforts to play Schumacher. In London there are more cars and more tight corners, plus i dont think they can take as many passengers as the double deckers can they? More ground space yet less passengers, hmmmmm?

Zod

35,295 posts

289 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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In London, they block corners and junctions all the time. They are an abomination from the foulest pit of Hell.

planetdave

9,922 posts

284 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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Is there any advantage with bendies over a double decker (apart from the taste)? Shirley the mechanism is a liability and the road space rediculous.

chris.mapey

4,778 posts

298 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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anonymous said:
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tell it like it is...

timmy30

9,325 posts

258 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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planetdave said:
Is there any advantage with bendies over a double decker (apart from the taste)? Shirley the mechanism is a liability and the road space rediculous.


The double deckers discriminated against the disabled apprently. London used to be terrible, literally tens of thousands of disabled people wandering around the streets unable to catch the bus, thousands of them lining the streets. Central London was clogged with them, especially at rush hour. The disabled seats already provided on the lower deck of the double deckers just couldn't cope with the numbers.

r988

7,501 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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paulhol said:
They work great in Leeds, but there are still some parts of the city where they take up the entire road to get around corners. It's either those or the double deckers with the maniac drivers trying to tip them in their efforts to play Schumacher. In London there are more cars and more tight corners, plus i dont think they can take as many passengers as the double deckers can they? More ground space yet less passengers, hmmmmm?


Any of those drivers ever tipped one? I get a bit nervous sometimes the speed they take some bends, all it would take is a small clip of the curb (which they run close to) and it could well roll, no doubt falling on top of me on the footpath.

Bendy buses are basically free, I've never seen a conductor on any bus in London, despite the threatening warnings of a financially crippling £20 fine, and ridiculous notices that laughably state 'You WILL get checked', err, no you wont.

for £200K they may as well use M5s. Sure they dont take as many people but they will get through the route about 5 times faster

planetdave

9,922 posts

284 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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Can someone lend me a towel to wipe the bile and saliva off with?

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

272 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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The biggest stupid idea ever.

It's like making them twice as long again, and half as wide!

Why do they build buildings UP, to save floor space.

The idea is dumb, I personally found the ones in Leeds nice to sit on, but only because they were new! The Leeds>Harrogate new modern double deckers are a revelation in comparison! Seen how much roof space the bendy ones have? For 10 ft high passengers?

Total waste of metal and road space, questionable handling, still dirty mucky things too!

Dave

john75

5,303 posts

278 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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GasMonkey said:
So you have not seen the 'ever seen a bendi-bus do a tank slapper' link ?

wouldnt fancy bieng in the back of that bus

www.metacafe.com/watch/71801/lefortovo_tunnel_of_death/


Me neither wonder what the passengers were saying ?

GasMonkey

475 posts

252 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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john75 said:
GasMonkey said:
So you have not seen the 'ever seen a bendi-bus do a tank slapper' link ?

wouldnt fancy bieng in the back of that bus

www.metacafe.com/watch/71801/lefortovo_tunnel_of_death/


Me neither wonder what the passengers were saying ?


Not sure - Whenever I have been on a bendi-bus there are always kids playing in the pivoting section, if they played them this video I bet they would sit quietly all journey !!

paulhol

482 posts

272 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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r988 said:
paulhol said:
They work great in Leeds, but there are still some parts of the city where they take up the entire road to get around corners. It's either those or the double deckers with the maniac drivers trying to tip them in their efforts to play Schumacher. In London there are more cars and more tight corners, plus i dont think they can take as many passengers as the double deckers can they? More ground space yet less passengers, hmmmmm?


Any of those drivers ever tipped one? I get a bit nervous sometimes the speed they take some bends, all it would take is a small clip of the curb (which they run close to) and it could well roll, no doubt falling on top of me on the footpath.

Bendy buses are basically free, I've never seen a conductor on any bus in London, despite the threatening warnings of a financially crippling £20 fine, and ridiculous notices that laughably state 'You WILL get checked', err, no you wont.

for £200K they may as well use M5s. Sure they dont take as many people but they will get through the route about 5 times faster


Not that im aware, although i do now know they have a piercing alarm when they exceed a certain angle of "tip". To be fair to the drivers, they probably dont have the time to tip them over in between mowing down cyclists and clipping parked cars.

>> Edited by paulhol on Thursday 2nd March 15:22

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

256 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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funnes getting em onto 2 wheels tho...

28-30° before they go.

paulhol

482 posts

272 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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what about when they've got 2 or 3 tonnes of people on the top deck though?

Raffles

1,931 posts

261 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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There would be a factor of safety taking that into consideration.

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

256 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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i believe (from another article which had a Routemaster on the tipper...

the test is done with all the weight on the lowerside, of basically more than the people capacity that can be upstairs, to simulate it tipping and everyone falling to the lower side - worst case senario type thing.