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superlightr

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Thursday 2nd March 2006
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What is 'pc anywhere' software v10 or above? what does it do?

Many thanks

The Dude

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Thursday 2nd March 2006
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superlightr said:
What is 'pc anywhere' software v10 or above? what does it do?

Many thanks


Lets you access/control a PC via a network or the internet, remotely from another machine.

FourWheelDrift

92,342 posts

314 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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And very slow, not as good as Windows Remote Desktop Connection across a virtual private network, which you get with later versions of Windoze XP (2000 as well?)

superlightr

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293 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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Thank you.

Do you need a base and host?

We need it on our machine so someone else can access it. So do we need the host or the base or do they come together?

Ghost software also may come with it - which looks like to me just a backup tool? Is it a more secure hard drive back up?

Apologies for being a thicky

The Dude

6,546 posts

277 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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Agree with 4WD, the RDC on XP is much faster and usable, we use it all the time.

Are you not able to update the machines with XP? That's the only reason I can think of to buy deidcated software.

ATG

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302 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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Ghost software takes a copy of your machine's operating system and installed applications and stores it "somewhere" so that if your PC goes pop, you can rebuild it from the ghost files rather than having to reinstall the o/s, then reinstall all the applications separately. So, yes, it is a backup, but it's a backup of your o/s and softwre installation, not of your personal files.

ATG

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302 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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superlightr said:
What is 'pc anywhere' software v10 or above? what does it do?

Many thanks

What is it? A pile of damp pants. What does it do? Drains you of the will to live.

The good news is from what you say someone else is using it to access your computer, so it is they who will suffer. I'm not to familiar with PC Anywhere's terminology but I think "Base" refers to the whole package. There are two bits of software in the package, the "host" and the "remote". The Host runs on the machine that is to be accessed remotely, and Remote is the software that runs on the remote machine. As you want to make your machine available from elsewhere, you probably need to het the Host software installed and running as a service on your machine.

nickjm

361 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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ATG said:
Ghost software takes a copy of your machine's operating system and installed applications and stores it "somewhere" so that if your PC goes pop, you can rebuild it from the ghost files rather than having to reinstall the o/s, then reinstall all the applications separately. So, yes, it is a backup, but it's a backup of your o/s and softwre installation, not of your personal files.


I thought it took a complete image of your hard disk, I'm sure it did when I used it last. Could be wrong though.

ATG

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302 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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nickjm said:
ATG said:
Ghost software takes a copy of your machine's operating system and installed applications and stores it "somewhere" so that if your PC goes pop, you can rebuild it from the ghost files rather than having to reinstall the o/s, then reinstall all the applications separately. So, yes, it is a backup, but it's a backup of your o/s and softwre installation, not of your personal files.


I thought it took a complete image of your hard disk, I'm sure it did when I used it last. Could be wrong though.
Yeah, you're probably right. That would be the best way to get thye apps and o/s. The point is it isn't a way of backing up your personal files so it isn't "backup software" in the way that most users would think about it.

nickjm

361 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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ATG said:
nickjm said:
ATG said:
Ghost software takes a copy of your machine's operating system and installed applications and stores it "somewhere" so that if your PC goes pop, you can rebuild it from the ghost files rather than having to reinstall the o/s, then reinstall all the applications separately. So, yes, it is a backup, but it's a backup of your o/s and softwre installation, not of your personal files.


I thought it took a complete image of your hard disk, I'm sure it did when I used it last. Could be wrong though.
Yeah, you're probably right. That would be the best way to get thye apps and o/s. The point is it isn't a way of backing up your personal files so it isn't "backup software" in the way that most users would think about it.


I completely agree. Imaging your whole disk to backup a few documents is a bit silly.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

255 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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Instead of PCanyhwere take a look at www.gotomypc.com.

aceparts_com

3,724 posts

271 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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I agree with the above! I use it all the time - fantastic

GreenV8S

31,024 posts

314 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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GoToMyPC works well, but not as well as Remote Desktop over VPN.

Also, GoToMyPC a bad idea from the security point of view, so I think a lot of companies would block it on principle.

guydw

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313 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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um - vnc is by far the best tool in this class... free too...

ATG

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302 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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guydw said:
um - vnc is by far the best tool in this class... free too...
If you're working across a LAN or VPN, then I can't see any reason why you'd choose PC Anywhere over VNC. (With the proviso that VNC does not handle keyboard mappings properly if you're are using different language keyboards on the client and server and no amount of regional setting tweaking will sort this out ... I have no ida if the same problem applies to PC Anywhere.)

If you're connecting across the Web without a VPN, do any of the VNC implementations provide adequate user authentication and encryption? I've worked at a place where NAT was used to allow PC Anywhere through the firewall ... I don't know if that was insane or not, but it would suggest that PC Anywhere handles authentication and encryption.

My current client company uses HTTPS, Citrix and RSA SecurID authentication to give me access to their internal machines via Ultra VNC. Over a 2Gb ADSL connection it is marginally faster than using Terminal Services and a modem, which goes to show how vastly more efficient Terminal Services is. If you're looking to get remote access to Windows machines, use Terminal Services (or remote desktop or whatever else it is called) if you can. It allows you to start remote sessions on Win2k server, Win XP and Win2003 Server. Unfortunately for me, it won't remote a Win2k Pro PC ... the only non-server Windows O/S some of our hardware will run ... which is nice.

Gaffer

7,156 posts

307 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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Dameware.

Claire

roadsweeper

3,789 posts

304 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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Famatech Radmin for being soooo easy to set-up and cheap for a small number of machines. We use this a lot.

Dameware Mini Remtoe Control is more powerful and cheaper for large numbers of machines, but I find it more tricky to configure.

omohat

361 posts

260 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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ATG said:
If you're connecting across the Web without a VPN, do any of the VNC implementations provide adequate user authentication and encryption? I've worked at a place where NAT was used to allow PC Anywhere through the firewall ... I don't know if that was insane or not, but it would suggest that PC Anywhere handles authentication and encryption.


NAT is completely application independent and has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not VNC supports authetication/encryption.

roadsweeper said:
Famatech Radmin for being soooo easy to set-up and cheap for a small number of machines. We use this a lot.


I use Radmin as well - its superb. Fast and easy to setup. Makes VNC feel cumbersome.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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RDP

Lets face it, most machines are Windows based after all...

GregE240

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297 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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Plotloss said:
RDP

Lets face it, most machines are Windows based after all...
What he said.

VNC is okay. The customer sites I've seen that use Dameware, it runs like a pile of shite, even on well connected networks.