Starship troopers 2
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Original Poster:

1,331 posts

257 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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Now don't get me wrong the first one was not exactly going to win awards for taxing the brain matter but it was entertaining enough and had Denise Richards in it so taken as a bit of light hearted entertainment was fine.

The supposed sequel on ch5 now must have cost about £1.29 and is truely one of the worst films Ive seen.

sadako

7,080 posts

269 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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At least the first one was funny

R TOY

1,747 posts

259 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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Ist one, Cult movie and an early role for Amy Smart i believe. Brilliant.
2nd one, Total shite.
'WANT TO KNOW MORE'



[SMALL]well actually there isnt any more[/SMALL]

planetdave

9,922 posts

284 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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225 said:
Now don't get me wrong the first one was not exactly going to win awards for taxing the brain matter but it was entertaining enough and had Denise Richards in it so taken as a bit of light hearted entertainment was fine.

The supposed sequel on ch5 now must have cost about £1.29 and is truely one of the worst films Ive seen.


Oh come on.

You can't see strings attached to the monsters and nobody i s a c t u a l l y r e a d i n g f r o m a b o a r d.

sstein

6,249 posts

285 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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the first one was dreadful, why did they even need a sequal?

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Stuart

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

285 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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1st one is a classic from a classic book, for many many reasons. Not seen the second but I heard its dire.

1st has so many levels from the humorous, through sci-fi and action to the deeply political, far less than the book but its there.

sstein

6,249 posts

285 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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RobDickinson said:
1st has so many levels from the humorous, through sci-fi and action to the deeply political, far less than the book but its there.


Did we see the same movie, lol

I seen a movie where giant bugs that could shoot asteriods did battle with a buch of soldiers armed to the teeth.....

each to their own i guess but I hated it.

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stuart

aldi

9,296 posts

268 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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RobDickinson said:
1st one is a classic from a classic book, for many many reasons. Not seen the second but I heard its dire.

1st has so many levels from the humorous, through sci-fi and action to the deeply political, far less than the book but its there.


Yep I love all Paul Veerhoeven's stuff (except possibly Showgirls)

Starship Troopers - ace
Total Recall - ace
Robocop - ace

They've all got that nice mix of light sattire, brilliant sci-fi and massive violence

Quite like the look of 'Beat of Bataan' too.

sstein

6,249 posts

285 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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aldi said:

Starship Troopers - ace
Total Recall - ace
Robocop - ace

They've all got that nice mix of light sattire, brilliant sci-fi and massive violence


One guy was responsible for all of those..


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Stuart

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

285 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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And the Hitcher, tho Verhoeven had excelent source material for this from Heinlein

sstein said:
Did we see the same movie, lol

I seen a movie where giant bugs that could shoot asteriods did battle with a buch of soldiers armed to the teeth.....

each to their own i guess but I hated it.

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stuart


I guess you missed a fair chunk of what the film(and book) is about, its easy not to see past the caricatured hollywood space violence to see some of the deeper meanings.

Don

28,378 posts

315 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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IIRC

"Starship Troopers" (Robert Heinlein) and "The Forever War" (Joe Haldeman) were written circa the same time? They were both views on war - particulary Vietnam (especially so in the case of "The Forever War". Starship Troopers was panned somewhat at the time for "glorifying" war - although Heinlein always claimed that was not his intention. Both books, according to their authors, are comments on war and on the cultures that wage them.

In the original ST movie Verhoeven satirised "Earth" (American) culture far further than the book went - although the premise of a society ruled by the military or ex-military was the same.

One is supposed to read into this what you will, I think. I liked the first film. It did try to tell the same story as the book - mostly. The book I read as a lad and thoroughly enjoyed it.

I simply wouldn't consider watching any of the sequels/cartoons/series/other nonsense.

warmfuzzies

4,379 posts

284 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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That's how I took the first ST film, complete satire of American attitudes to war, really funny I thought.

Kevin

Monster26

284 posts

256 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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First one was pure entertainment..... "what to know more...?"
Last night was shocking, even if you didn't like the first one, you'd never wish a film a sequal to be that bad.

Least I know the secret.... Fog fog and more fog.

Mark

B17NNS

18,506 posts

278 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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sadako said:
At least the first one had Denise Richards in it

aldi

9,296 posts

268 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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sstein said:
aldi said:

Starship Troopers - ace
Total Recall - ace
Robocop - ace

They've all got that nice mix of light sattire, brilliant sci-fi and massive violence


One guy was responsible for all of those..


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Stuart


Robocop needs a whole thread I think!! The sattire there is in the corporations taking over more and more, e.g. the police and running it with a corporate agenda. And who can forget:

...YOU NOW HAVE TWENTY SECONDS TO COMPLY.

TEN.
<lab guys bashing on the controlls>
FIVE.
<sceaming, running>
dugga-dugga-dugga-dugga... (In the 'Criterion edition' BTW the robot stands over the guy for a clear 10 seconds pumping rounds into him from those huge autocannons before they manage to turn it off... its awesome)

The way he mixes stuff like that with the plush corporate veneer and those little 'advert' seguays is brilliant. Massively underrated film IMO.

>> Edited by aldi on Monday 6th March 09:05

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

272 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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I cringed and cringed and it still didn't get any better!

Infact I had to cover my face at points, it really was THAT bad, and I find the ending to The Postman cringerworthy and still didn't cover my face!

How could anyone make ST2 and think that they had done a good job. It's just literally unbelievable how anyone could make that film for general release! Maybe for GCSE Media studies, at a push!

Dave

YarisSi

1,538 posts

275 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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When it starts you think its going to to be a film there watching as a joke or some kind of piss take but then it keeps going. I sort of enjoyed it