42" plasma / lcd
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ThatPhilBrettGuy

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11,810 posts

270 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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Right, after moving into the London flat, it's about time I got a tele. 42" is about the right size, so I've been looking at plasma and LCD's. Simple eh? Er, no it turns out!

My wish list is :-

* Must be 42" (ish). No smaller than 37" and no bigger than 45"

* Must be Plasma or LCD (no projectors or indirect LCD's)

* Must do HDTV so 1024*768 minimum resolution

* Must be able to take PC input and do 1:1 pixel mapping, preferably with digital input.

* Digital tuner

* Not look like a dogs dinner (like the Philips things)

I've also got concerns about plasmas and their image retention issues. I thought I'd found a great set (Pioneer 436 SXE) as the picture quality was great in the shop. But it seems to have image retention issue (people say), and you cannot get the PC input to do the native screen res.

ukBob

16,277 posts

295 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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Im sure derestrictor will be along in a minute. Like dozens of other PHers, I bought my set from him (and opted for LCD in the end)

shadytree

8,291 posts

279 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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Pioneer 42" , quoted as "The Best plasma ever built" top banana mate.

Mr Noble

6,538 posts

263 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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Do some research on the new samsung panel. Its the latest one out and is awesome. By far the bset on the market at the mo in 40" guise. (info from my mate who borks for Bang and Olafsen!)

Its being used in the New Sony Bravia range which come in 3 levels of prossessor speed with the top one producing near HD quality from a normal tv feed! Its rather exspensive though. The next one down is also pretty great.

Samsungs new models will use the same panels obviuosly.

Not sure if you know, but there are only 2 or 3 companies that make all the panels for the whole market, so this new panel will no doubt make its way into 20+ different tv's and they will all vary due to the quality and size of the electronics bits that power them.

There is just starting a massive boom in big LCD's as the introduction of this new panel has produced screens that at (at last) better than the equivelent plasma screens. You need to look at the contrast ratios. Higher the better.

A few years ago you would be buyinng screens of 400:1 but now you can get an lcd thats 4000:1 !! and up>

It may pay to wait another 6 months till this new wave of LCD's has become the norm.


HTH

Greg


PS. You may be able to tell that I am looking for one too!

PPS. I take it the new flat has secure parking that fits a Noble! ?


vixpy1

42,699 posts

294 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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Just ordered a Plasma off Der.. great service..

Have a look at the thread in P&P about TV's.

GregE240

10,857 posts

297 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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DeR is off today, so best mail him through his profile....

theboyfold

11,473 posts

256 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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Have a look at the Panasonic Viera. They have just updated the spec
www.panasonic.co.uk/plasma-tv/th42px60cab/index.htm

or the older one which is the one I have and you might be able to get some deals on it:
www.panasonic.co.uk/plasma-tv/th50pv500cab/index.htm

Not sure what the difference is though!

GregE240

10,857 posts

297 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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anonymous said:
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Its a rolling discount actually, Bedders.

Judicious use of the words "peasants" "commies" "scum" "filth" and the word "socialist" in the most derogatory phrase you can think of will see you right, I've found. Oh, and the killer is if you've spent more on a 993 Turbo than he has. Sadly, you could probably count on one hand the number of persons this applies to.

vixpy1

42,699 posts

294 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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GregE240 said:
Oh, and the killer is if you've spent more on a 993 Turbo than he has. Sadly, you could probably count on one hand the number of persons this applies to.


_dobbo_

14,619 posts

278 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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ANother vote for DeR here, best price by miles, and if you join his "kill all socialists" party you get an extra discount.

GetCarter

31,293 posts

309 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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I'm in that market - this weeks What Hi Fi seems to point to:

Pioneer PDP-436XDE (43" plasma) (RRP 2.8k)
Sony - KDL-V40A12U (40" LCD) (RRP £2.4k)

Both 5 stars - seen them both on the net at about 20% off this price... Good Sir DeR will be hearing from me (as long as he stocks them!)

Steve

stuh

2,557 posts

303 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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Phil - Only comment i would make is that Blu-ray or HD-DVD will be able to provide a full monty 1080p HD signal. Screens that can do 1920x1080 native arrive on the market in a few months time...........not a problem with SKY HD as that is only 720p, but the added screen res will be a major bonus for the PS3 or a media center PC.

>> Edited by stuh on Friday 10th March 14:22

granville

18,764 posts

291 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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Permission to jibber-jabber on the morrow, got an important socialist burning to attend...



egomeister

7,603 posts

293 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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derestrictor said:
Permission to jibber-jabber on the morrow, got an important socialist burning to attend...


Good show, incinerate one for me while you are at it!

ThatPhilBrettGuy

Original Poster:

11,810 posts

270 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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derestrictor said:
Permission to jibber-jabber on the morrow, got an important socialist burning to attend...

EGO vultus porro.

I believe we're both involved in velocity testing presently, so more pixel talk could ensue if my flexible friend has not been singed beforehand.

dcw@pr

3,516 posts

273 months

Saturday 11th March 2006
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will there ever be such thing as an HD CRT screen? i wish i never had to buy a flat panel tv, the pictures are universally poor IMHO

ccharlie6

773 posts

270 months

Saturday 11th March 2006
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just watching some HD films on my computer monitor (crt) i know its not the same as a tv but presumably if its possible for a comp monitor it must be possible to make a tv

theboyfold

11,473 posts

256 months

Saturday 11th March 2006
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dcw@pr said:
will there ever be such thing as an HD CRT screen? i wish i never had to buy a flat panel tv, the pictures are universally poor IMHO


Not that I know of, we use them at work, but they are Grade 1 broadcast monitors and they don't come cheap!

dcw@pr

3,516 posts

273 months

Saturday 11th March 2006
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ccharlie6 said:
just watching some HD films on my computer monitor (crt) i know its not the same as a tv but presumably if its possible for a comp monitor it must be possible to make a tv


yes but i would liek a widescreen tv that is larger than 22"!

ThatPhilBrettGuy

Original Poster:

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270 months

Saturday 11th March 2006
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Mr Noble said:
PPS. I take it the new flat has secure parking that fits a Noble! ?

Oh yes. No nasty ramps either. Only tight bit is getting in the car lift, but when I park properly it's not an issue.