when did the rebuild issues end?
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Unfortunately my Tuscan was written off last year, probably a few weeks before a rebuild was required - but only a week after a new clutch was fitted 
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Now I've got an M3 but the old bug is starting to bite again and TVR (probably Tuscan) ownership beckons - but..............
When was the engine sorted? after what date do the Speed Six lumps become 'reliable'?
I've seen a couple of 2003 models which look attractive but are these a safe bet or should I aim for one that has already been rebuilt?
. Now I've got an M3 but the old bug is starting to bite again and TVR (probably Tuscan) ownership beckons - but..............
When was the engine sorted? after what date do the Speed Six lumps become 'reliable'?
I've seen a couple of 2003 models which look attractive but are these a safe bet or should I aim for one that has already been rebuilt?
Don't agree at all.
You can get a warranty after an inspection at a TVR dealer.It takes an extensive inspection and so it'll cost and you have to have any problems put right before the warranty comes into play, but you would want any problems sorted anyway wouldn't you? If you want to pay the extra the warranty can be extended to cover wear and tear as well.The warranty lasts up to five years I beleive but use the search function for more info.
If you factor in the 36k /three year warranty from new TVR's can now be warrantied for 8 years which is similar to Porsche. Yes it costs every year but its a high performance car.
There is no such thing as cheap high performance.
You can get a warranty after an inspection at a TVR dealer.It takes an extensive inspection and so it'll cost and you have to have any problems put right before the warranty comes into play, but you would want any problems sorted anyway wouldn't you? If you want to pay the extra the warranty can be extended to cover wear and tear as well.The warranty lasts up to five years I beleive but use the search function for more info.
If you factor in the 36k /three year warranty from new TVR's can now be warrantied for 8 years which is similar to Porsche. Yes it costs every year but its a high performance car.
There is no such thing as cheap high performance.
Fair enough Steve - but the original post stated
"after what date do the Speed Six lumps become 'reliable'?".
While the warranty is really positive news for everyone, in itself, it does not guarentee that the engine - or any other part for that matter - is reliable. It guarentees only that the individual is covered in the event of an incident. I am going to be taking advantage of it myself this year, but being a realist, this still does not mean my (rebuilt) engine is "reliable".
Not meaning to get into semantics, but I was responding to the specific query - your comments on the warranty also add additional value to the overall purchase consideration.
What I absolutely do agree is that high performance is not cheap - take a look at my profile and I speak from experience on this.
"after what date do the Speed Six lumps become 'reliable'?".
While the warranty is really positive news for everyone, in itself, it does not guarentee that the engine - or any other part for that matter - is reliable. It guarentees only that the individual is covered in the event of an incident. I am going to be taking advantage of it myself this year, but being a realist, this still does not mean my (rebuilt) engine is "reliable".
Not meaning to get into semantics, but I was responding to the specific query - your comments on the warranty also add additional value to the overall purchase consideration.
What I absolutely do agree is that high performance is not cheap - take a look at my profile and I speak from experience on this.
As posted before, I have a late 2002 4.0 Speed 6 with 21,000 trouble free miles, engine uses virtually no oil and has strong pressure including when hot.
The car has always been carefully warmed up from new and IMHO, most S6 engine problems are caused by unsympathetic over-reving when cold.
The car has always been carefully warmed up from new and IMHO, most S6 engine problems are caused by unsympathetic over-reving when cold.
I bought a 54 reg car for that reason (although I had no probs at all with my 2001 Tuscan either)
I dont think the engine issue is half as bad as some make out (but that from my own experience) others may not have had a similar experience.
Intresting you were thinking of a Tuscan - I was thinking of an M3, now the our little boy has arrived. But thinking about parting company with the Tuscan really hurts or maybe I shall just keep it.!!
Nick
I dont think the engine issue is half as bad as some make out (but that from my own experience) others may not have had a similar experience.
Intresting you were thinking of a Tuscan - I was thinking of an M3, now the our little boy has arrived. But thinking about parting company with the Tuscan really hurts or maybe I shall just keep it.!!
Nick
Alas I don't think there is any firm proof that newer engines are properly 'sorted' as newer cars have had failures - however I do think that owner awareness properly kicked in a few years ago which reflects that perhaps those cars from late 02 onwards have had more sympathetic treatment than perhaps the very first ones which may have been treated more like a RV8 initially.
I opted for the full annual wear and tear warranty this year which is great as it provides peace of mind but it's not cheap (£1400) and is subject to a 200 point check to ensure all parts are in good order - if not this will cost you even more plus no doubt a circa £800 service cost at some point. Whilst happy to do this, I was somewhat agrieved that I should have to do this on TVRs own engine on a car with less than 12k on the clock.
This lack of proof has reflected in the spiralling residual values of TVR Speed 6 cars too. Fairly new ones with low mileage are now going for £19k or less which is bordering on higher mileage and much older Griff 500s and Cerberas. Advice is certainly to buy as new as you can (as Mustang says) but the more you pay and the newer you buy the greater hit you will take on its residual value. The Tuscan is awesome, and easily the best TVR I have owned as well as the most superb drivers car.
I opted for the full annual wear and tear warranty this year which is great as it provides peace of mind but it's not cheap (£1400) and is subject to a 200 point check to ensure all parts are in good order - if not this will cost you even more plus no doubt a circa £800 service cost at some point. Whilst happy to do this, I was somewhat agrieved that I should have to do this on TVRs own engine on a car with less than 12k on the clock.
This lack of proof has reflected in the spiralling residual values of TVR Speed 6 cars too. Fairly new ones with low mileage are now going for £19k or less which is bordering on higher mileage and much older Griff 500s and Cerberas. Advice is certainly to buy as new as you can (as Mustang says) but the more you pay and the newer you buy the greater hit you will take on its residual value. The Tuscan is awesome, and easily the best TVR I have owned as well as the most superb drivers car.
gruff500 said:
Ahhhh, of course its all the fault of TVR owners - the Speed 6 is a flawless unit!! Lol
Nothing is flawless, NASA have been less than flawless even with there budget.
If some sp6 owners were educated in basic mechanicss the SP6 would have looked less flawless because the casualty rate would have been a lot less..
Hope that explains
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