Will we ever see limits raised again?
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Is it ever going to happen?
We keep hearing the same tired line all the time, speed kills. So they lower the limits, and surprise - more road deaths than the year before.
Amazing stuff. So where it used to be legal to do 60, often we can only do 40 or 30 now. Funny, it was safe enough at 60, but we are now automatically criminals for still doing the "old" limit.
Right, when can we hope to see these limits reverted? who do I need to vote for?
c
The obvious answer is not to vote at all, so that they get a clear message from us.
If their policies, such as they are, dont appeal to us then why vote for them?
Ive made my mind up to never vote again unless nothing short of a miracle happens to change the stupid system we have now.
Its not working, so lets use our "none" votes to send them a clear meassage; "we -dont-want-you".
Until they all fcuk off, ill not give them the satisfaction of receiving a vote from me ever again, even in the locals.
Dosent matter what party or council we vote in, they all have their own covert agendas.
Screw em all.
If their policies, such as they are, dont appeal to us then why vote for them?
Ive made my mind up to never vote again unless nothing short of a miracle happens to change the stupid system we have now.
Its not working, so lets use our "none" votes to send them a clear meassage; "we -dont-want-you".
Until they all fcuk off, ill not give them the satisfaction of receiving a vote from me ever again, even in the locals.
Dosent matter what party or council we vote in, they all have their own covert agendas.
Screw em all.
But it's not though, is it? Not voting just says "I don't care if you get in, do your worst!"
deltaf said: The obvious answer is not to vote at all, so that they get a clear message from us.
Not voting is just playing into their hands.
It just makes it easier for the encumbent party to get back into power. They love it when people don't vote, cos it means the party faithful vote counts for more. How can not voting ever make things better?
Things that could make things change:
Voting for a different party
Actively participating in politics
Revolution/insurrection
When i go for a ride it often crosses my mind , how long will this stay a 40 or a NSL before some prat who sits behind a desk allday looks at some stupid figures on a piece of paper and decides we should go slower for the sake of the fluffy bunnies as he eats his veggie burger , i swear this counrty is try to self destruct its self by making it illegal to drive anywhre or do anything that s fun they seem to think we live within walking distance of where we work or work from home , soon there will be a tax on smileing 
its getting seriously close to thinking about moving on from this nanny state and president bLIAR its starting to depress me
its getting seriously close to thinking about moving on from this nanny state and president bLIAR its starting to depress me
Craig...
I agree with you. The only way not voting helps is if a certain percentage of voters are REQUIRED to vote in order to validate an election...
Take heart Carl, we have already been through this in the US. We went for years with a 55mph speed limit on interstate highways that are now (mostly) at 75. What it takes is an effort from the masses (called "grass roots" in the States, unsure of the UK term). Basically, the politicos where told that due to safety measures (air bags, abs, etc, etc) being improved on cars through legislation, then the speed limit has to go up.
It actually had some side benefits for industry as well. Cargo carrying lorries got through faster. It took a while but was worth it...
ErnestM
I agree with you. The only way not voting helps is if a certain percentage of voters are REQUIRED to vote in order to validate an election...
Take heart Carl, we have already been through this in the US. We went for years with a 55mph speed limit on interstate highways that are now (mostly) at 75. What it takes is an effort from the masses (called "grass roots" in the States, unsure of the UK term). Basically, the politicos where told that due to safety measures (air bags, abs, etc, etc) being improved on cars through legislation, then the speed limit has to go up.
It actually had some side benefits for industry as well. Cargo carrying lorries got through faster. It took a while but was worth it...
ErnestM
Although i see what youre sayin Craig, i just cant bring myself to vote for any of them.
Im just too dam pissed off to give a hoot about any of em.
Who should i vote for and why?
What am I gonna get outa this "favour"?
Theres nothing they are gonna do for me, in reality theyre just gonna look after themselves, whether they get my vote (or yours mate) or not.
I tend to have high morals and strong views on things, and im not about to prostitute myself just so they can have 5 years free reign.
Im kinda resigned to the idea that theyll do whatever they want, but, at the same time, they better get fcuking used to the fact that im gonna do likewise.
Lowered speed limits therefore mean very little to me, i wont obey them unless theres a sound reason to, and that dont include some John Q Law hiding behind a bush.
Im just too dam pissed off to give a hoot about any of em.
Who should i vote for and why?
What am I gonna get outa this "favour"?
Theres nothing they are gonna do for me, in reality theyre just gonna look after themselves, whether they get my vote (or yours mate) or not.
I tend to have high morals and strong views on things, and im not about to prostitute myself just so they can have 5 years free reign.
Im kinda resigned to the idea that theyll do whatever they want, but, at the same time, they better get fcuking used to the fact that im gonna do likewise.
Lowered speed limits therefore mean very little to me, i wont obey them unless theres a sound reason to, and that dont include some John Q Law hiding behind a bush.
Deltaf, good sentiments, but I fear that once you get to 11 points, you may have to reconsider.
And when you get over 6pts, your insurance becomes a nightmare too. B**tards.
I don't like it anymore than you, but even I can see that the "thin end" has been well and truly shoved in, and that they are hammering it home.
uch:
What do we do? ABD is good, but if we all sit by and do what we're doing now, eg, NOTHING, then they will win, and we will all be doing 20mph.
C
And when you get over 6pts, your insurance becomes a nightmare too. B**tards.
I don't like it anymore than you, but even I can see that the "thin end" has been well and truly shoved in, and that they are hammering it home.
uch: What do we do? ABD is good, but if we all sit by and do what we're doing now, eg, NOTHING, then they will win, and we will all be doing 20mph.
C
NEVER next bike is a ZX12R 
**** is what i say I all ways have drove at an apropate speed for anywhere and and dont need a stupid sign to tell me what speed to drive at.
I dont even bother looking at speed signs.
and just avoide cams and twats with lasers.
I keep one or 2 spare licences anyway all clean so far
as far as being banned gos. If i get banned ill just sell the car and bye another bike.
With a set of knoblys on it. I never did hame much repect for there poxie laws.
Im reminded of even less repect for them, ever time im bouncing over the lates batch of silly speed humps the managed to come up with.
I say teach em to blood drive and not slow down
and another one Of my pet hates , why the **** cant dam schools of motoring teach the bloody learners to **** ing park , inteased of driving round the car park 10 time to find a space big enouth to get a bus.
I went for a drive to day nothing else better to driving towards harpendon. as any one that knows the road will know.
it ushally floods, it was pissing it down. Im wondering to my self how many lost it . about half way where It ushally flood that day.
get to the ushall spot and of course there one car in the ditch a few more bent up
two ablence and a selection of cops. suprice supice .
was it speed? No of course not just another load of twats that cant drive in the rain and got 0% skid control skill.
**** there perfetic limets Ill stick with my common sence . its keep me in one pice all theas years.
I dont even bother looking at speed signs.
and just avoide cams and twats with lasers.
I keep one or 2 spare licences anyway all clean so far
as far as being banned gos. If i get banned ill just sell the car and bye another bike.
With a set of knoblys on it. I never did hame much repect for there poxie laws.
Im reminded of even less repect for them, ever time im bouncing over the lates batch of silly speed humps the managed to come up with.
I say teach em to blood drive and not slow down
and another one Of my pet hates , why the **** cant dam schools of motoring teach the bloody learners to **** ing park , inteased of driving round the car park 10 time to find a space big enouth to get a bus.
I went for a drive to day nothing else better to driving towards harpendon. as any one that knows the road will know.
it ushally floods, it was pissing it down. Im wondering to my self how many lost it . about half way where It ushally flood that day.
get to the ushall spot and of course there one car in the ditch a few more bent up
two ablence and a selection of cops. suprice supice .
was it speed? No of course not just another load of twats that cant drive in the rain and got 0% skid control skill.
**** there perfetic limets Ill stick with my common sence . its keep me in one pice all theas years.
outlaw said: ****
Im reminded of even less repect for them, ever time im bouncing over the lates batch of silly speed humps the managed to come up with.
I say teach em to blood drive and not slow down
and another one Of my pet hates , why the **** cant dam schools of motoring teach the bloody learners to **** ing park , inteased of driving round the car park 10 time to find a space big enouth to get a bus.
I went for a drive to day nothing else better to driving towards harpendon. as any one that knows the road will know.
it ushally floods, it was pissing it down. Im wondering to my self how many lost it . about half way where It ushally flood that day.
get to the ushall spot and of course there one car in the ditch a few more bent up
two ablence and a selection of cops. suprice supice .
was it speed? No of course not just another load of twats that cant drive in the rain and got 0% skid control skill.
**** there perfetic limets Ill stick with my common sence . its keep me in one pice all theas years.
very true.
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