F1 stats ?
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gorvid

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22,336 posts

242 months

Saturday 11th March 2006
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Can anyone tell me what weight / bhp / o-60 mph current F1 cars have?
Also - how does this compare with superbikes / rally cars etc...?


deevlash

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254 months

Saturday 11th March 2006
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I dont know exactly but last year the F1 cars were running up to 1000bhp, the honda in particular, now with the V*'s theyve lost 20% and are around 800bhp. Not sure about the weight though. Moto gp bikes have about 250bhp IIRC and weigh nothing at all, superbikes are around 200bhp probably a little over but are heavier than motogp bikes and have steel disks as opposed to the carbon motogp ones. WRC cars have 300bhp. Sure somebody will come along with actual facts and 0-60's soon

Eric Mc

124,125 posts

282 months

Saturday 11th March 2006
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Although F1 cars have impressive acceleration, I would suggest that the fasted accelerating cars are Top Fuel dragsters and specialist Hill Climb cars (such as Pilbeams or Goulds).

>> Edited by Eric Mc on Saturday 11th March 21:40

chriswright

354 posts

239 months

Saturday 11th March 2006
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According to Nigel Roebucks column in this weeks autosport.
2006 McLaren:
0-60 = 2.3s
0-100 = 3.6s
185-0 = 3.5s

Jungles

3,587 posts

238 months

Saturday 11th March 2006
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Subaru Impreza WRC 2006

Power: 300 BHP (224 kW) @ 5500 rpm (Official FIA regulation figure. Actual power is estimated 320 bhp for 2005 model, with 2006 model having around 5 bhp more.)
Torque: 347 lb-ft (470 Nm) @ 4000 rpm

Driveline: AWD with passive front and rear differentials and active centre differential.
Weight: 2711 lbs (1230 kg)

Acceleration 0-62 mph: Dependent on setup. Usual figures from 3.2 to 3.5 secs on gravel.
Quarter-mile sprint: Dependent on setup. One quoted figure is 13.19 secs
Top speed: Dependent on gearing. Fastest top speeds can be seen during Rally of Sweden at almost 200 kph in some stages.


Rally cars depend more on torque than power, hence the relatively low power figure. The FIA also tries its best to keep the power down with 34mm restrictors. However, teams always find a way to squeeze more power from their engines. The Subaru team is handicapped due to design limitations of the flat-4 Boxer engine, and is rumoured to have the weakest engine. Peugeot and Ford were rumoured to have the most powerful engines at around 340-350 bhp.

It is also rumoured that a WRC car (a Skoda, IIRC) achieved almost 300 kph during a speed test, but of course, this is not during rallies. WRC rally stages are limited to maximum average speed of 120 kph. Even on high-speed rallies like Sweden and Finland, fast sections only reach 150 to 190 kph, with drivers occasionally managing over 190 kph.

>> Edited by Jungles on Saturday 11th March 22:28

speedychrissie

2,994 posts

256 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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they are trully phenominal cars. i was talking to one of the technical bods at ferrari at silverstone in 2004 (i think) about teh stats of the cars then.

0-100-0 in 6 seconds! (to put it in context, the mclaren F1 road car does 0-100 in 6.6seconds)

if anyone built the right tunnel an F1 car can easily generate enough downforce to allow it to "stick" to the roof of a tunnel given a reasonable amount of speed! (i cant believe that no-one has tried this yet).

and they weigh next to nothing.

Frik

13,639 posts

260 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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speedychrissie said:
they are trully phenominal cars. i was talking to one of the technical bods at ferrari at silverstone in 2004 (i think) about teh stats of the cars then.

0-100-0 in 6 seconds! (to put it in context, the mclaren F1 road car does 0-100 in 6.6seconds)

if anyone built the right tunnel an F1 car can easily generate enough downforce to allow it to "stick" to the roof of a tunnel given a reasonable amount of speed! (i cant believe that no-one has tried this yet).

and they weigh next to nothing.
Macca supposedly does 100 in 6.3, but that's just being pedantic

F1 cars have a minimum weight of 600kg during a race. General consensus is that the new V8 engines "lose" 200bhp over the V10 so probably tend to be around the 720bhp area.

Moto GP bikes have minimum weights in the 138-158kg range (depending on cylinder numbers). I believe the most powerful bikes have in the region on 240bhp. Otherwise known as "plenty".

Gorvid

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242 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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*rubbish question alert*

F1 versus MotoGP on the same track at the same time....?

FourWheelDrift

91,193 posts

301 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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Gorvid said:
*rubbish question alert*

F1 versus MotoGP on the same track at the same time....?


An F1 would be lapping a MotoGP bike after about approx 4-5 laps. For example at China last year where both series ran the MotoGP pole time was 25seconds slower than the F1 (F1 - 1m34s, MotoGP - 1m59s)

Edited to reduce the laps after checking the stats.

>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Sunday 12th March 14:09

Gorvid

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242 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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Due to better cornering speeds and higher top end ?

FourWheelDrift

91,193 posts

301 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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Braking and cornering, mostly.

Mannginger

9,913 posts

274 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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Yup

Same at Catalunya.

MotoGP: 1' 43.195
F1: 1' 27.168

Cars are generally quicker I believe due to having better grip through the corners.

Phil

bobthepsycho

208 posts

252 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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Gorvid said:
Due to better cornering speeds and higher top end ?


MotoGP have higher top end - no wings for downforce.

I think the fastest MotoGP speed was 216mph - Caprossi last year.

F1 top around ~210mph (? - not that sure actually - maybe should have done some research before replying)

All depends on the gearing, track etc.


slinky

15,704 posts

266 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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Not going to get into the whole drag racing vs circuit racing argument....

but..... Top Fuel Dragster... 0-60 0.5s 0-100 0.86s 0-330 (ish) in 4.5s

And yes, I know they don't go around corners...

slinky

FourWheelDrift

91,193 posts

301 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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slinky said:

And yes, I know they don't go around corners...

slinky


How do you get back to the start then?

slinky

15,704 posts

266 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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FourWheelDrift said:
How do you get back to the start then?


A Tow car

slinky