Newbie..possibly buying 135R...advice...please.
Discussion
Hey guys...er and gals, I've got a dilema..and it's all Hans (hbaumhardt) and Andrews (shangani) fault (oh and Work Too).
Why I hear you ask, well thanks to them (I followed them to Donnington meet last weekend) after catching them up as I over slept may I add!! to experience my first track day in an Elise infact both of their's...and since then I WANT ONE!!!
The 'Work Too' comment will now come clear, I work for a dealership (no names) and we've taken a 135R in p/x in Blue Mica June 03 with 16k on it, silver OZ's, not my first choice, not sure what extra's its got, if any, very tidy car except needs nose cone/bumper re-srayed due to a Lotus repair done and the paint is bubbling up (slow carpark impact incident) tyres are half worn, and yeah i know how expensive these are!!OMG!!! The car has full service history, think it's due one...June? Once a year? I can't see from the supplied invoices any mention of the Head Gasket being replaced, which concerns me.
But my question is, as many may have asked before...can you give my some pointers and advice.
P.S. This car will be mainly used for summer and track days, as I have a Co. Car. oh that reminds me, the roof needs a good clean, think he's parked it under a tree or two, what would be the best way of cleaning it. Oh and guess what thinking of some mods already, but nothing to crazy..HID lights defo 1st then what....?
Swiss Tone
(Charlie)
Why I hear you ask, well thanks to them (I followed them to Donnington meet last weekend) after catching them up as I over slept may I add!! to experience my first track day in an Elise infact both of their's...and since then I WANT ONE!!!
The 'Work Too' comment will now come clear, I work for a dealership (no names) and we've taken a 135R in p/x in Blue Mica June 03 with 16k on it, silver OZ's, not my first choice, not sure what extra's its got, if any, very tidy car except needs nose cone/bumper re-srayed due to a Lotus repair done and the paint is bubbling up (slow carpark impact incident) tyres are half worn, and yeah i know how expensive these are!!OMG!!! The car has full service history, think it's due one...June? Once a year? I can't see from the supplied invoices any mention of the Head Gasket being replaced, which concerns me.
But my question is, as many may have asked before...can you give my some pointers and advice.
P.S. This car will be mainly used for summer and track days, as I have a Co. Car. oh that reminds me, the roof needs a good clean, think he's parked it under a tree or two, what would be the best way of cleaning it. Oh and guess what thinking of some mods already, but nothing to crazy..HID lights defo 1st then what....?
Swiss Tone
(Charlie)
Hey Charlie
Welcome to the dark side.... You have heard my opinion on the matter. Bear in mind that you are central to one of the best lotus specialists around - Steve Williams @ www.swlotus.com. Why not get him to go over the car.
For trackdays and summer 135R is a great choice. Roof cleans easily enough with soapy water. I need to proof mine and can give you the rest of the waterproofing. There are alternatives to the 048 tyres - toyo T888's can be had for a bit less. A lot less if a group buy is done. Fronts last longer.
Young skywalker .... I feel your anger...... Turn to the dark side....
muhahahahahaah
Welcome to the dark side.... You have heard my opinion on the matter. Bear in mind that you are central to one of the best lotus specialists around - Steve Williams @ www.swlotus.com. Why not get him to go over the car.
For trackdays and summer 135R is a great choice. Roof cleans easily enough with soapy water. I need to proof mine and can give you the rest of the waterproofing. There are alternatives to the 048 tyres - toyo T888's can be had for a bit less. A lot less if a group buy is done. Fronts last longer.
Young skywalker .... I feel your anger...... Turn to the dark side....
muhahahahahaah
www.elise-faq.info/content/buying/index.php
www.elises.co.uk/problems/s2/index.html
Couple of sites above worth visiting for buying pointers.
135r is a great car but fairly extreme for the road. The tyres are silly money - I just paid £350 for 2 rears after 7k road miles. Track it and it will 4k replacement cycle..... however margins are rumoured to be high so if you can get them trade
Main thing is they are used on track so check service history and regular oil changes.
Mine's not had HGF (22k) touch wood - rumoured to be one of only 4 blue cars that haven't. If it's got to 16k and hasn't then I can't see why it would be any more likely than any other k seris car. If the worse happened I'd drop some cams in while it was being repaired
My doors bubbled and were resprayed although outside warranty period.
Price should be around £17-18k so if it's cheap enough jump at it. Next service likely to be a B service - bit pricey at a dealer but I'd go to a specialist.
I have the spec sheet if you want a copy email me - addi is in my profile......
www.elises.co.uk/problems/s2/index.html
Couple of sites above worth visiting for buying pointers.
135r is a great car but fairly extreme for the road. The tyres are silly money - I just paid £350 for 2 rears after 7k road miles. Track it and it will 4k replacement cycle..... however margins are rumoured to be high so if you can get them trade
Main thing is they are used on track so check service history and regular oil changes.
Mine's not had HGF (22k) touch wood - rumoured to be one of only 4 blue cars that haven't. If it's got to 16k and hasn't then I can't see why it would be any more likely than any other k seris car. If the worse happened I'd drop some cams in while it was being repaired
My doors bubbled and were resprayed although outside warranty period.
Price should be around £17-18k so if it's cheap enough jump at it. Next service likely to be a B service - bit pricey at a dealer but I'd go to a specialist.
I have the spec sheet if you want a copy email me - addi is in my profile......
Some pics to tempt you - best looking elise IMHO
http://community.webshots.com/album/5
http://community.webshots.com/photo/4
http://community.webshots.com/album/5
http://community.webshots.com/photo/4
Ha, I knew doing this would be a bad idea...it's turing me more to the darkside, the more I read
I'm going back into work 2moro and will give the car a good going over again. Feel a bit under pressure as I will need to decide by 11ish on Monday. Andrew any chance you could come over say around 2ish? Do like the idea of asking Steve W to come over but guess he's not on the dog and bone on a Sunday??
By the way thank you for the info and web links, v helpfull. Andrew I know you've got a Hard Top and i can see that you have one too, is this an option, if so how much are they, probably wont get one mind, as I woldn't use the car much in the winter, although it does look good. Can't believe those tyres last 7k on the road, madness, mind you I do remember my MK1 Golf days, running a very modded GTi and the tyres only lasting 3-4k, ha guess thats the price you pay for the fun I'll get again...
...mmm you never know, fun may once more rear it's head again.
I'm going back into work 2moro and will give the car a good going over again. Feel a bit under pressure as I will need to decide by 11ish on Monday. Andrew any chance you could come over say around 2ish? Do like the idea of asking Steve W to come over but guess he's not on the dog and bone on a Sunday??
By the way thank you for the info and web links, v helpfull. Andrew I know you've got a Hard Top and i can see that you have one too, is this an option, if so how much are they, probably wont get one mind, as I woldn't use the car much in the winter, although it does look good. Can't believe those tyres last 7k on the road, madness, mind you I do remember my MK1 Golf days, running a very modded GTi and the tyres only lasting 3-4k, ha guess thats the price you pay for the fun I'll get again...
...mmm you never know, fun may once more rear it's head again.
elisesport said:
Buy my Saffron yellow 135R, 13,000 miles on Pistonheads for £17,000.
It goes as p/x on an Exige next Saturday so be quick... forecourt value will be £19,995!
PS Lawrence... the hard top was not standard btw.
>> Edited by elisesport on Monday 13th March 14:22
Was it not - cool..... I got even more of a bargain then
DO NOT buy a K series Elise without getting a specialist - Steve Williams in our case - to do a prepurcahse inspection. Cant guarantee that your HGF free but £80 for 90 mins of his time would be a wise investment.
IF you are going to buy a car for the track then DO get the 135R and just fit a harness. It costs around £4k to take another S2 elise to 135R spec with marginal increase in reasale value ... BTDT.
IF you are going to buy a car for the track then DO get the 135R and just fit a harness. It costs around £4k to take another S2 elise to 135R spec with marginal increase in reasale value ... BTDT.
Hiya guys, thanks for the input loads to take in...just to update you...going to call Steve 2moro to see when I can get the car down there...bit difficult to get it down there I recon bcos of PLC politics but it's at least worth a try. L5 thanks but I managed to find the specs of the t-internet.
Had the car cleaned today, not polished but just cleaned and it looks so much better.
P.S. bare with me on this one, its going to be a long winded process this I think...I do work for a big PLC..but don't worry I'll bore you with my various emails and phone calls over the next few days.
Had the car cleaned today, not polished but just cleaned and it looks so much better.
P.S. bare with me on this one, its going to be a long winded process this I think...I do work for a big PLC..but don't worry I'll bore you with my various emails and phone calls over the next few days.
Guys just to let you know, after many sleepless nights and conversations with Andrew I have taken the plunge....cosmetics are being rectified next week and I'm hoping to take delivery of my new addition Friday next week....and I can't wait, a coupe mods/addons are already on the list just need to find a few people to jump for a group buy...
1) HID's Dipped Beams may do full beam too if cheap enough
2) Larini back box
I'm sure there was something else I wanted...just can't remember!!
P.S. My good friend Jason at A-Plan insurance has sorted me out with a cracking deal...bareing in mind my colourful driving licence and have to mention him...he's been looking after my clients and family businesses for years now and worth I try..it's only a phone call...01420 543543, ask for Jason and mention me and before you ask....no I don't get anything for it!!!
1) HID's Dipped Beams may do full beam too if cheap enough
2) Larini back box
I'm sure there was something else I wanted...just can't remember!!
P.S. My good friend Jason at A-Plan insurance has sorted me out with a cracking deal...bareing in mind my colourful driving licence and have to mention him...he's been looking after my clients and family businesses for years now and worth I try..it's only a phone call...01420 543543, ask for Jason and mention me and before you ask....no I don't get anything for it!!!
Now you get to shred your own tyres! We need to ccordinate a Walshy day and a track outing soon. 
Helps being in the motoring trade! Well at least Charlie no longer needs to get nauseous passengering in my car, or worry about whether I will say anything when he has a spin on the track while driving my car.
Oh dear, Hans Baumhardt and I seem to have turned another good man to the dark side. It is a really nice car though.
Charlie - get the cosmetics done and post some pics. I will do some video editing and post how I nearly shunted his new car when he slowed down!
Oh dear, Hans Baumhardt and I seem to have turned another good man to the dark side. It is a really nice car though.
Charlie - get the cosmetics done and post some pics. I will do some video editing and post how I nearly shunted his new car when he slowed down!
shangani said:
Helps being in the motoring trade! Well at least Charlie no longer needs to get nauseous passengering in my car, or worry about whether I will say anything when he has a spin on the track while driving my car.
Oh dear, Hans Baumhardt and I seem to have turned another good man to the dark side. It is a really nice car though.
Charlie - get the cosmetics done and post some pics. I will do some video editing and post how I nearly shunted his new car when he slowed down!
Ha, yeah that was a close one and I rally not a good passenger when it comes to car sickness...or is it your driving
cosmectics being done early next week, although I'm a fussy bugger and get the feeling that I might not have the car ready by next weekend, but then I'm also a very impatient bugger! On the side of pictures...seems to have mislaid my camera..last seen/used last weekend at the bottom of the hill under the A404, just before you read my rear number plate closer than anticipated!!! Any idea's? Probably left in my car, but it's with one of the managers over the weekend, so can't check it.
(Young Jedi Knight)
Charlie.
>> Edited by swiss tone on Friday 24th March 20:09
>> Edited by swiss tone on Friday 24th March 20:09
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