Changed pads today
Changed pads today
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davidn

Original Poster:

1,028 posts

288 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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Had them sitting on the shelf for a couple of weeks and finally got round to fitting them.

Not much life left in the original AP's, 1144's now bedded in as per instructions and working fine but squealing quite a bit. I'll see if they settle down but if not will stick them in with some silicone.
Interstingly the AP's have been generally quiet and I wonder if this is because they have a crosshatched rubber backing.
Anyway the question ... the old front pads have worn at a different rate, rights about 2-3mm more wear than lefts. I've not noticed the car pulling under braking but have recently experienced brake judder. Checked the disk temp after bedding in the new pads and it's equal left to right. So what causes the uneven pad wear?
Cheers
David

budaholic

1,516 posts

264 months

Sunday 12th March 2006
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I have 1144s in my rear calipers.... I've done everything I can think of to stop them squealing.

Chamfered the leading edge at 45 degrees. Stuck anti-squeal shims to the backs. Applied copper grease to the backs and the piston faces.

Nothing has worked..... still squeal like a bus.

And i have a spare set!!

I've learnt to live with it, don't bother me any more.

Bud

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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budaholic said:
I have 1144s in my rear calipers.... I've done everything I can think of to stop them squealing.

Chamfered the leading edge at 45 degrees. Stuck anti-squeal shims to the backs. Applied copper grease to the backs and the piston faces.

Nothing has worked..... still squeal like a bus.

And i have a spare set!!

I've learnt to live with it, don't bother me any more.

Bud


I always found the rears squeel more than the fronts.

davidn

Original Poster:

1,028 posts

288 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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Yep sounds like rears doing most of the squealing for me too, might drop the old AP's in the rear to see.
Or as you say Bud learn to live with it.
Do either of you chaps have any suggestions re: uneven pad wear I think it's odd that I have not noticed any symtoms but one side is doing more work than t'other.

ED300 did I read somewhere you were thinking of selling?

Cheers
David

kojak

4,547 posts

282 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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You might find that the squealing will go after a few thousand miles. Mine eventually did. However, I've just changed my rears due to normal wear, and fingers crossed, theyre ok at the moment.

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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I fixed my squeal. Or at least put it outside the audible range. Required me cutting into the pad. So it may not be for everyone.

simonsparrow

1,599 posts

291 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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Julian64 said:
I fixed my squeal. Or at least put it outside the audible range. Required me cutting into the pad. So it may not be for everyone.


Cutting into the friction material or backing plate?

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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Friction material. There is a small gap between the two sides of the pad. I found my squeal got worse when this got blocked with brake dust/friction material. I therefore tried conversely to widen it using a mill. (P.S. don't do this without breathing apparatus).

Each time I widened it the squeal became less and less. I assume I was affecting the resonancy of the pad against the disc. Such that it finally disappeared, and has not returned since, neither does the gap allow buildup of rubbish anymore (I think its too wide now) so when I check it the gap is still clear.

I asuume the gap filling is why you drive away from the service station with no sqeal and it then starts to come on after a couple of hundred miles?

Aerofoil

1,543 posts

266 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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The only way I (the indy) could get rid of the squeal on mine, after spending money on getting them cut, discs sanded etc was for me to fork out for some new rear discs. This was due to the discs having tiny imperfections in them that the old pads had grown with. Got some cross drilled ones put on the back that allowed the air to escape so no chance of squeal. I couldn't drive the car with the squeal as it ruined it for me and found I was driving round trying to never use the brakes, that restricts the driving pleasure some what If I had just bought the discs in the first place would have not worked out that much more that getting them to try and fix the old ones, plus you aren't weakening the components.

trackcar

6,453 posts

255 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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Except that x-drilled discs are inherently weak and generally a big no-no for any kind of performance driving ...

Aerofoil

1,543 posts

266 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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trackcar said:
Except that x-drilled discs are inherently weak and generally a big no-no for any kind of performance driving ...


I didn't think they would be under so much stress on the back as they would be on the front, which is why I thought that would be ok.

byff

4,427 posts

290 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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budaholic said:
And i have a spare set!!


I could do with a set of rears, despite the squeeling. Buy them off you?

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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davidn said:


ED300 did I read somewhere you were thinking of selling?

Cheers
David


I am selling

budaholic

1,516 posts

264 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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byff said:
budaholic said:
And i have a spare set!!


I could do with a set of rears, despite the squeeling. Buy them off you?


Sorry, my rear pads are getting quite low. That's why I bought another set. I'm terrible for storing things. I like to have them for when I need them. I like to be prepared.

I have a new starter motor sitting in a box in the garage,

and No!, I wont sell that either,

Bud

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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budaholic said:
byff said:
budaholic said:
And i have a spare set!!


I could do with a set of rears, despite the squeeling. Buy them off you?


Sorry, my rear pads are getting quite low. That's why I bought another set. I'm terrible for storing things. I like to have them for when I need them. I like to be prepared.

I have a new starter motor sitting in a box in the garage,

and No!, I wont sell that either,

Bud


Are you saying Cerb rears are in low supply?

You know the rears are Rover Mini front pads dont you?

budaholic

1,516 posts

264 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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I do know the Cerb rear pads are Mini Cooper fronts, yes. As I said, I just like to keep spares of everything, just in case. I bought mine from Demon Tweeks i think??

I'm a hoarder, I know its a disease, but I can't help it,

Bud

davidn

Original Poster:

1,028 posts

288 months

Monday 13th March 2006
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Extra 300 Driver said:
davidn said:


ED300 did I read somewhere you were thinking of selling?

Cheers
David


I am selling


Sorry to hear that the 'smiley' says it all
cheers
David