Rubber Issues

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Photek

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56 posts

297 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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Hi Guys,
I finally picked up my 968CS in Scotster Yellow, but with silver alloys and a black gear gaitor . I had to wait a while to get it as I had the gearbox rebuilt, greenstuff pads and EBC discs fitted on the front, 48,000 mile OPC service with cam chain change and last but no least I had Pirelli Rosso's fitted on the rear as they were low, but I left the Pirelli P700's on the front as they had loads of tread.
Now the car runs like a dream apart from the front does tend to run wide in the wet. The car has been in storage for the last 4 - 5 years so I'm guessing the rubber on the front is at least that age, could it be the front tyres are passed it and need replacing as well?

Cheers,

David

sb930turbo

3,325 posts

276 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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Hi Guys,
I finally picked up my 968CS in Scotster Yellow, but with silver alloys and a black gear gaitor . I had to wait a while to get it as I had the gearbox rebuilt, greenstuff pads and EBC discs fitted on the front, 48,000 mile OPC service with cam chain change and last but no least I had Pirelli Rosso's fitted on the rear as they were low, but I left the Pirelli P700's on the front as they had loads of tread.
Now the car runs like a dream apart from the front does tend to run wide in the wet. The car has been in storage for the last 4 - 5 years so I'm guessing the rubber on the front is at least that age, could it be the front tyres are passed it and need replacing as well?

Cheers,

David


Tyres have a life of a maximum of 6 years,before the rubber deteriorates...I would get new on the front as well, asap.
Steve

Thom

2,745 posts

286 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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I had a bad eperience with the Pirelli P700, both at the front and the rear.

Not only did I spin in the wet at ridiculously low speeds but I also happened to lose control of the front in corners!
If your front tyres are "cooked" - which I suppose they are because the long storage - I suggest you offer yourself new ones.

melv

4,708 posts

278 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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Replace the tyres!! Get some Rosso's on the front. P700's may have been state of the art 5 years ago, but not anymore.

BTW, not a good idea to mix different tyres on a sports car anyway!

Melv

superlightr

12,916 posts

276 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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yes for sure change them, old poor tyres are not good and dangerous when mixed with good new ones.

isnt the p700 an old design/cheaper type tyre, I think that theres a lot more better performance tyres with p now inthe 000 range ie p7000 etc.?

superlightr

12,916 posts

276 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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ps congratulations on getting your Porsche

superlightr

12,916 posts

276 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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crossed in the post with Melv. snap.

Thom

2,745 posts

286 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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Forget the P7000 and fit S-02, they're much better (on that type of car anyway)

sb930turbo

3,325 posts

276 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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Congrats on the car,by the way.As you have new Rosso's on the rear,seems sensible to go with the same on the front.

>> Edited by sb930turbo on Tuesday 31st December 10:15

Photek

Original Poster:

56 posts

297 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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thanks for the help guys, I've ordered the tyres just now Is there anything else that "should" be done to a CS? They are considered pretty good cars anyway but does the infamous M030 pack add all that much to an all ready great car?

Thom

2,745 posts

286 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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Photek said: They are considered pretty good cars anyway but does the infamous M030 pack add all that much to an all ready great car?

Definitely.
You'd be amazed on how good the M030 improves the handling.
I'd even say it totally transforms the car.
Check my post in this thread to find out what all the M030 items are

Photek

Original Poster:

56 posts

297 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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Thanks for the details on the M030, I think I will have to wait a while before blowing any more money on the car. As I mentioned above I just bought the car then promptly spent approx 2K on the following :

Gearbox rebuild (pinion bearings)
Thatcham Class 1 fitted
New front discs + pads
New tyres on the rear (fronts now on order )
48,000 Mile Service + Belt Change at OPC
New Battery

But then it did only cost 7.5k and only has 33k miles on the clock Can't complain too much

Thom

2,745 posts

286 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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It definitley sounds like a good buy for this price/mileage!

I'd be very happy if you could give me some more information on the "gearbox rebuild".
What was done to it exactly?

Photek

Original Poster:

56 posts

297 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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not 100% sure, I will have to check the invoices again - it was when I took it in for a presales inspection at an OPC they mentioned that it was fine apart from the brakes + the gearbox pinion bearings were on there way out and needed replacing. There was quite a noticeble noise/whinning noise from the box, they were quoting 1500-2000! But I got it done for 700 from a local gearbox specialist using porsche parts.
The explanation I got from the OPC was that they had put to many shims in at the factory so, so when the gearbox guy got the box he said it was running very very tight - he had trouble turning it on his testbed and all the pinion bearings needed replacing.

Thom

2,745 posts

286 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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£700 is rather inexpensive.
A friend of mine who runs a 928 CS (yep, they made some) spent around £3,000 for the rebuild of his first three gears by an independant specialist

Photek

Original Poster:

56 posts

297 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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700 quid is indeed not too bad, however I'm not sure thats the "standard" price. I bought the Porsche from the place where I store one of my other cars (MG BGT). So they helped me out and any work I needed doing on the Porsche they got done through there usual people, and quite possibly got reduced rates?
I did read about the 928CS because before I got the 968 I was considering a 928.....Great cars, but at the moment I want a "fun" car, not a very fast tank for crusing across Europe in!

diver944

1,846 posts

289 months

Tuesday 31st December 2002
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Congrats on the car, that sounds a bargain price, and well done for getting it thoroughly 'serviced' and more asap.

The pinion bearings problem has been well discussed on www.968.net as a manufacturing problem on a certain batch of cars. Many cars that clocked up miles quickly had them sorted under Porsche warranty but Porsche never admitted a fault. Lower mileage cars are only now getting to the wear point and unfortunate owners are coughing up circa 3k at the dealer. Lucky for you your specialist sorted it at a nicer price

The only other thing to be wary of on 968's and 944 16v cars (god I'm all doom and gloom) is the camchain tensioner and slipper. This has never been included in scheduled service inspections, but the general consensus is replace at 80k miles or 10 years. Most specialists have a set price around 200 quid, which is better than an engine rebuild and two new cams if the chain snaps!!!

Paul (not on commission - honest)