number plate offences
Discussion
With the congestion charge around the corner, can
someone give me the possible outcome of the following
offences:
1) If i remove my front plate
2) Clone a plate from another car
3) cover the numberplate with mud
4) Use stealth plates that blank the plate at the
flick of a switch.
if possible no guesses on this one.
cheers, mark . . . check out www.sod-u-ken.co.uk
With the congestion charge around the corner, can
someone give me the possible outcome of the following
offences:
1) If i remove my front plate
2) Clone a plate from another car
3) cover the numberplate with mud
4) Use stealth plates that blank the plate at the
flick of a switch.
Hi, the minimum you could expect are as follows:
1) Advice and VDRS - or Non endoresable FPN - £30
2) Arrested for theft / deception
3) Advice and/or VDRS - or Non endoresable FPN - £30
4) Possibly Obstruct PC if you're caught red handed - more likely a wad of cash from being the first person to produce such an item that actually works!!
1,2 and 4 all fall under Construction and Use Regs. Number 3 is clearly theft and as such an arrestable offence.
Regards
Rob
>> Edited by relaxitscool on Tuesday 31st December 14:51
Relaxitscool,
There is a device that actually works! It uses a charge to keep a layer of er...stuff (think see through clock displays) which goes opaque without the current. Flick of switch and hey presto.
see www.priva-plate.com
There is a device that actually works! It uses a charge to keep a layer of er...stuff (think see through clock displays) which goes opaque without the current. Flick of switch and hey presto.
see www.priva-plate.com
funkihamsta said: Relaxitscool,
There is a device that actually works! It uses a charge to keep a layer of er...stuff (think see through clock displays) which goes opaque without the current. Flick of switch and hey presto.
see www.priva-plate.com
This device could see you with your collar felt!
Ideal for those who like to drive off from petrol stations without paying
Bilking or making off without payment has become an arrestable offence recently. The Police have the power to arrest any person who they have reasonable suspicion may be about to commit an arrestable offence, even if an arrestable offence has not been committed.
The idea of the arrest is to gain evidence by interview.
You may have all the required answers to bat off the criminal use of such a device, but you may have to explain why you had it or decide to exercise your right to silence.
There is no gaurantee that you would not walk away from the nick without some form of charge in your hand and there is a very good chance that even if you did, you may have wasted at least 4 to 6 hours of your valuable time and had to suffer an 'All day breakfast'
Hows bout this for a valid defence for using them.
You have an expensive car, such as an XKR, and when you park the car up, the number plate becomes obscured, to prevent possible theives from being sure that the car they have been eyeing up is that particular car.
In effect, its part of an anti theft strategy.
Would the police really have a problem with such a usage?
You have an expensive car, such as an XKR, and when you park the car up, the number plate becomes obscured, to prevent possible theives from being sure that the car they have been eyeing up is that particular car.
In effect, its part of an anti theft strategy.
Would the police really have a problem with such a usage?
hertsbiker said:
Police have the power to arrest any person who they have reasonable suspicion may be about to commit an arrestable
Ah yeah, right. Minority Report for real then?
How long before the TVR/Bike owner is pulled simply for having a bike or TVR ??????!
This law sucks.
Seconded.
This is absolutely disgusting and definitely not based on facts.
Thom said:
hertsbiker said:
Police have the power to arrest any person who they have reasonable suspicion may be about to commit an arrestable
Ah yeah, right. Minority Report for real then?
How long before the TVR/Bike owner is pulled simply for having a bike or TVR ??????!
This law sucks.
Seconded.
This is absolutely disgusting and definitely not based on facts.
I'm afraid it's not new - it been part of the current legislation since the Police and Criminal Evidence Act came into being in 1984. It's primary function is to deal with those obvious cases where a person is about to do something naughty and there is reasonable suspicion that supports this e.g. standing outside a posh house at 3.00am in the morning, carrying an empty bag with 'Swag' thereon or something of that ilk. However it can be used to deal with the number plate scenario described here to arrest in the first instance (as Madcop stated) to obtain evidence by questioning. Once the evidence has been examined then the specific offences disclosed can be charged.
The motive for using these stealth plates is questionable from the outset, and IMO I would have no problems accepting a person detained under these circumstances into custody on the grounds that questioning was required.
But isnt it the case i made earlier that these plates actually have a legitimate use?
The masking of the number plate while parked off street is not illegal, its to prevent those equipped for theft knowing that this is indeed the same car they were eyeing up earlier.
It helps to protect privacy again by preventing them from knowing that this is where the owner lives.
Thats the "defence" i would give if arrested for using it in a lawful way.
>> Edited by deltaf on Thursday 2nd January 10:30
The masking of the number plate while parked off street is not illegal, its to prevent those equipped for theft knowing that this is indeed the same car they were eyeing up earlier.
It helps to protect privacy again by preventing them from knowing that this is where the owner lives.
Thats the "defence" i would give if arrested for using it in a lawful way.
>> Edited by deltaf on Thursday 2nd January 10:30
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