Noble pics in Car!
Noble pics in Car!
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Mr Noble

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Thursday 16th March 2006
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These were taken by Matt Gravy on here. He posts in the Photog forum and shoots for various car magazines. These are some of the ones not used on his Chicago Noble v ZO6 shoot for Car magazine this month.

Very nice IMO!

Greg







obes

3,298 posts

273 months

Thursday 16th March 2006
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great pics

w8cko

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251 months

Friday 17th March 2006
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Excellent shots.

jamesk

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308 months

Friday 17th March 2006
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Christ on a bike I hope the cameraman has good life insurance!

robp

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270 months

Friday 17th March 2006
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Greg - you might want to ask your mate about this!
The Car magazine comparison was between Corvette Z06 and Noble M400. The text eulogises (mostly) about the M400, but lo and behold, all the pictures in that article are of a 3R – lack of side-pods is a bit of a give away, but the rear 3q shot showing a 3R badge (for those in the know) is a clincher.
There is a comment on being hot inside the car because the car has no air-conditioning –flick eyes right to full page picture showing heater switch dialled fully round to cold and little yellow air-con light glowing manfully (similar to the first pic you showed above)...woops!
So are we to believe the text and they really did so a direct head to head comparison of the Z06 with a M400 in the US or was the author just having a larf sat in a pub in Criklewood Green? Perhaps it was a direct comparison of a Z06 vs a 3R (seems most likely from the pics) and the model number was just swapped in the text to make it a more topical comparison once EVO's version was published??
Whatever, it dosn't help car mag credibility. Maybe I should ask Mr. Barlow to explain.

V6GTO

11,579 posts

271 months

Friday 17th March 2006
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robp...I'll PM Matt (the photographer) and see what he says

Martin.

robp

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Friday 17th March 2006
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Martin - Probably as he want's more work! But would be interesting to find out. You do come across such a load of b***ocks in these mags. They were great pics though, no problem there..

V6GTO

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Friday 17th March 2006
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He's off-line at the moment, but he's a top bloke and I'm sure he'll "dish the dirt"

Martin.

Mr Noble

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Friday 17th March 2006
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Did notice that at the time but have nt read the article.

Prahaps it was as you say. Maybe they couldn't get a 400 for the day?

G

joust

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288 months

Friday 17th March 2006
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As Matt says in the thread in the Photography forum, he did the photos some time ago (October). It's not unusal (and in my new world of Sky, seems almost the rule) that the article and the photos/video are done completly separatly.

If you notice the car in the studio of Top Gear is hardly ever the car they have driven in the article - why, because there can be months between the two!

Hence I wouldn't be at all surprised if the article was written a few weeks ago, and the pics were taken 6 months ago.

J

>> Edited by joust on Friday 17th March 19:38

robp

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Friday 17th March 2006
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joust said:
Hence I wouldn't be at all surprised if the article was written a few weeks ago, and the pics were taken 6 months ago.


I have no problem with difference in timings of shots vs article, but usually the pictures match the article (as per TG) In this case they don't, so you have to ask the question -is the article just a load of ol' tosh, because the piccies clearly are of a 3R not of an M400.

V6GTO

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Friday 17th March 2006
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I've sent Matt a note asking him to comment

From memory he said something like "the Yanks thought the Noble was from outer space, but they freaked when they saw the 'Vette because this was 3-4 months before it was released to the public"

Martin.

joust

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Friday 17th March 2006
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robp said:
I have no problem with difference in timings of shots vs article, but usually the pictures match the article (as per TG) In this case they don't, so you have to ask the question -is the article just a load of ol' tosh, because the piccies clearly are of a 3R not of an M400.
??? Not sure what the point is. Noble's are hardly "common" to come by in the US. How many times do you think a "normal" version of a car stands in for the "hot" version when it comes to piccies?

J

robp

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Friday 17th March 2006
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joust said:
??? Not sure what the point is. Noble's are hardly "common" to come by in the US. How many times do you think a "normal" version of a car stands in for the "hot" version when it comes to piccies?


The point is that perhaps they didn't do a comparison of an M400 vs Z06 wehen they said that they did. If they had access to one -why not photograph it?

joust

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Friday 17th March 2006
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robp said:
The point is that perhaps they didn't do a comparison of an M400 vs Z06 wehen they said that they did. If they had access to one -why not photograph it?
Because perhaps in October they didn't have one, but recently they did??? Or, shock horror, perhaps the comparison was done in a different part of the States, or, perhaps even on UK roads????

J

robp

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Friday 17th March 2006
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joust said:
Because perhaps in October they didn't have one, but recently they did??? Or, shock horror, perhaps the comparison was done in a different part of the States, or, perhaps even on UK roads????

I have suspended disbelief several times over, but still have a hard time understanding what is so difficult about getting 2 cars and 1 camera together? They claimed to have tested the M400 vs Z06 in Chicago together. Patently, that is not the case- the shots are of a 3R and Z06. So are we to believe they had the 2 cars (M400 and Z06) together in Chicago for a head to head (the M400 without air-con, of course) but couldn't find a camera? Then aftewards, they found a camera and shot piccies of a passing 3R?? As I said before they're just having a larf.
But, Joust, I do admire your loyalty to the establishment.

joust

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Saturday 18th March 2006
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robp said:
But, Joust, I do admire your loyalty to the establishment.
Not loyalty, but I have been getting more and more exposure to the media over the last 6 months and I'm finding more and more that photography and articles are rarely ever done together, and half of what looks "spontaneous" is actually carefully scripted....

J

robp

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Saturday 18th March 2006
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...or in this case, not very carefully scripted. Which is my main point - for this particular article you are left not knowing whether to believe the text or the pictures, or indeed, neither; whether it was a genuine head to head in Chicago (which is what it was advertised as) or just a compilation of some pub gossip. I see it as plain sloppy journalism and incompetent editorship, but if nobody really cares and pulls them up, I suspect the car mags will continue just taking us for a ride...

joust

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Saturday 18th March 2006
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But you have an M400 - so do you care?

J

robp

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Sunday 19th March 2006
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Just an integrity thing.. but I'll get off my high horse now