Sagaris Running Costs

[amcphillips]

Hi all,

Just looking for an estimate on running costs for a Sagaris. If one was going to be taking some serious mileage (ie 40,000 miles a year) what would you expect maintenance, servicing, tyres etc for a year to cost? I'm now expecting a reply stating I'd be lucky to get 4,000 miles a year before it falls apart etc!!

Thanks for any help!
Andrew

[chris watton]

A conservative esimate for 40K miles a year would be around the £8K region!

[amcphillips]

Thanks for that. Thats pretty reasonable really and roughly what I'd expected.

[chris watton]

amcphillips said:

Thanks for that. Thats pretty reasonable really and roughly what I'd expected.

OK, that’s cool, I included at least the six services in that (haven’t had one that's been under £1K yet), and a new clutch may be a possibility, plus two new sets of tyres. If that’s affordable for you, there isn’t a lot at this price range that gives such an all round, exhilarating driving experience.
(Oh yes, if you order a new Sag, INSIST on having the LSD that has a 3.73:1 ratio!)

[Daftlad]

chris watton said:

(Oh yes, if you order a new Sag, INSIST on having the LSD that has a 3.73:1 ratio!)

Chris,
Why would you want to that if the car came with a satndard gearbox - first would be a close to useless gear??

[sideways mostly]

Ok so there are some people who know about the recent (?)change in ratios and some that don't - anyone care to give the full info?

[Daftlad]

No recent change as far as I am aware.
3.6 and 4.0 cars have 3.46 final drive with a std box.
Cars (usually 4.0 engined car) with CR box have 3.73 final drive ratio

[jimmyt]

40K miles in a year?

Where on earth are you thinking of going in the thing?

I used to do a similar mileage in my Golf for work and was just numbed by the dullness of driving ALL the time - the mileage in the TVR was purely for pleasure!

Hope you don't get bored of a sag doing that much mileage!

[TSS]

Mine’s done just over 10,000 miles and so far has cost about £700 for a first service and other than that just a bit of oil.

I’d say you’d be looking at about £6K for services (at TVR Power prices) and you might want to extend the warranty after it runs out at 36,000 miles. Probably a clutch as well unless you’re doing mostly motorway driving.

So I reckon Chris Watton’s £8K estimate is about right.

[amcphillips]

jimmyt said:

40K miles in a year? Where on earth are you thinking of going in the thing? I used to do a similar mileage in my Golf for work and was just numbed by the dullness of driving ALL the time - the mileage in the TVR was purely for pleasure! Hope you don't get bored of a sag doing that much mileage!

Not going to be me doing most of the driving!

[jimmyt]

You're not from one of those TVR hire car companies are you?

If so, can I have it for Le Mans?

[amcphillips]

jimmyt said:

You're not from one of those TVR hire car companies are you? If so, can I have it for Le Mans?

LOL it's for something similar to P1. If we launch in time (which is possible) and you become a member its all yours!

[noddy2]

For what my opinion is worth,if I was buying a car to do 40k a year it wouldnt be my Staggeris !

[amcphillips]

40k is a maximum really, depends how popular it is. Each member won't be doing more than 1,000 miles each in it I expect.

[jimmyt]

amcphillips said:

its all yours!

Brilliant! So I've bagsied the Sag - don't forget.

Keep us informed then.

James

[targarama]

But if the car is part of a P1 type club I'd expect it to be subject to a lot more wear over those 40k than if 1 sales rep punted it up and down the motorways for a year. I'd suggest specifically excluding track days in the membership agreement too.

[amcphillips]

targarama said:

But if the car is part of a P1 type club I'd expect it to be subject to a lot more wear over those 40k than if 1 sales rep punted it up and down the motorways for a year. I'd suggest specifically excluding track days in the membership agreement too.

Yep, trackday use excluded, except on officially organised days by ourselves.

[jimmyt]

So are there any details of this club published yet or are you still in the investigative stage?

Membership costs? Membership types maybe? Car marques? etc etc.

[amcphillips]

At the moment it's looking like £10k annual membership which will give 50 - 60 days if used wisely (so not 3 weeks in an F430 in August!)

Launch cars:
Ferrari F430
Lamborghini Gallardo
Aston Martin Vantage V8
Porsche 911 GT3
TVR Sagaris
Merceded SLK 55AMG

This will include all insurance and free delivery and collection (subject to minimum rental of 1 week otherwise delivery would be charged). Membership limited to a ratio of 6 per car to improve availability and no members added without adding more cars which members get to vote on.

[UpTheIron]

I would agree with Chris W's figures if it was the owner doing 40k/year, but given that it isn't, I would factor in the following:

- Tyres every few (3?) thousand miles. I spend a lot of time on motorways in my Tuscan but only get around 10-15k out a set.
- Clutch...every service?! Let's face it, there could be a lot of traffic light GP's done.
- Engine rebuilds. Will your hirers observe the stringent "warm up" routine for the engine? And if ignored, will TVR honour the warranty?

Residual value...hmmm, I'd have no problem buying a S6 TVR with 40k on it (or 80k after two years), but that is because I'd expect it to be cheap. Have you considered getting 2 and spreading the mileage? Not sure how the sums would stack up...