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I blame the bloody AOC? the control authority, If they hadn't restricted Audi so much with the R8 who knows, I get fed up with the rules being made to penalise those who are successful, just so's the others can catch up. I mean Audi won within the rules didn't they, so why penalise them, it gets my goat.....they did the same when Audi dominated the BTTC...bloody interfering nobodies...
kevin.
Audi diesel owner....
kevin.
Audi diesel owner....
I was reading about the R10 in EVO and ironically Kristensen said that the most difficult aspect of driving the diesel engine was that it was so quiet. At racing speeds the engine noise was completely drowned out in the cockpit by wind noise, so any changes in revs that might help alert a driver to a loss in traction weren't audible.
I'm too busy.Mark B said:
A sad day for motorsport... Audi should be put down!
Umm, why? So they have a diesel engine, so what - they have a fast diesel engine.
If motorsport sits still, it stagnates. Now THAT'S bad.
In the 20's/30's plenty of people grumbled about these little 'toy' cars with blowers not being as good as the 1 litre per cylinders cars.
When Lotus put the engine at the back people grumbled.
Not everyone wanted people using 1.5l turbo engines, but BMW seemed happy with them.
People laughed at Mazda for not giving up on the Wankle cycle, but it was faster so who cares?
//j17 said:
Umm, why? So they have a diesel engine, so what - they have a fast diesel engine.
If motorsport sits still, it stagnates. Now THAT'S bad.
In the 20's/30's plenty of people grumbled about these little 'toy' cars with blowers not being as good as the 1 litre per cylinders cars.
When Lotus put the engine at the back people grumbled.
Not everyone wanted people using 1.5l turbo engines, but BMW seemed happy with them.
People laughed at Mazda for not giving up on the Wankle cycle, but it was faster so who cares?
Sorry, if my comments upset but for me I want to hear, smell and see the highlights of motorsport. Blowers were an advance in engine technology, they prouced higher outputs and kept with the excitement of motorsport. 1.5L BMW F1 engines were an awesome feat of engineering producing probably the most wonderful era of f1, with huge power outputs, unreliability and exciting racing likewise with the Mazda using the rotary it all added to the spectacle.
The Audi diesel is just a low revving quiet lump of an engine that will prove incredibly success but for me another backward step for the spectacle that is motorsport.
Maybe I'm not moving forward but having remembered the Le Mans races over the passed 15 years I would like to see some proper competition and closer racing, not ultra reliable, safe cars pounding round hour after hour without missing a beat....
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Anyone found any footage of it yet on-line? Whats it sound like?
Loads of footage comaparing the sound of the R10 with other cars
It is the beginning on a new era - of that I'm sure.
The issue that needs to be addressed to keep this a spectator sport and not just a development game is the sound that these cars will be generating.
It surely wouldn't be too difficult to engineer a good sound from a car that produces discharge such as exhaust waste.
Maybe not this year but it needs to happen quickly as more and more manufacturers will enter this new war of diesel sales via racing.
The issue that needs to be addressed to keep this a spectator sport and not just a development game is the sound that these cars will be generating.
It surely wouldn't be too difficult to engineer a good sound from a car that produces discharge such as exhaust waste.
Maybe not this year but it needs to happen quickly as more and more manufacturers will enter this new war of diesel sales via racing.
rooster said:
The R10 might have won there but will it last 24 hous?
Yes. They only retired the second car after its radiators filled with rubbish and it ran a bit hot for a while.
The petrol-powered R8 (five time Le Mans winner) never suffered a single engine failure in 6 years of competition. That's six Le Mans (up to four R8s in each one), six Sebring 12-hours and six Petit Le Mans 10-hour races. The diesel will simply march on in the same manner, albeit a bit quieter because it has huge particulate filters to catch the soot and smoke.
Mark B said:
Sorry, if my comments upset but for me I want to hear, smell and see the highlights of motorsport.
Geez, if I got upset by someone posting a message saying they didn't liking diesels I wouldn't last long on this site!
Just continuing the debate.
The biggest problem is that Le Mans is getting too easy - it's mean to be a car (but not driver) killer and these days too many finnish and people like Audi (well OK, maybe ONLY Audi) can make a car that more or less never breaks down.
Cobbles and marshels with those police Stinger things on the N138 I say (taken at race speeds of course) - that's got to break an Audi or 2.
volkswagen and bmw have won the 24hrs in germany can spell track name on the norishphure before they could do 4 hour with out a stop but that was in touring cars although i think its great they are trying something new i hate the sounds of diesel and i own one, you got to have the noise.
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