Spoiling race results with posts
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Can I just say this closing and locking of topics is stupid!
If people don't want to know the results of races they haven't yet seen, they should stay well clear of a PC completely, let alone a motoring and motorsport forum!
Please, for the love of god, stop whining and moaning about people giving away spoilers, afer all, its just the results of a motor race. It's really not that important in the grand scheme of things!
If people don't want to know the results of races they haven't yet seen, they should stay well clear of a PC completely, let alone a motoring and motorsport forum!
Please, for the love of god, stop whining and moaning about people giving away spoilers, afer all, its just the results of a motor race. It's really not that important in the grand scheme of things!
Me was thinking the same too. Is the whole world supposed to keep mum becauuse certain people could not watch the race? if they don't want to even get a hint from a thread title, stay away from Motorsport forum! It's a no brainer. I can see why the mods started the whole 'keep mum' thing, but come on, we are all adults, and can cope with keeping away from a forum until we see a race!
It may be a motosport forum, but why should someone keep clear of all fora as is suggested just to avoid a result?
There is nothing wrong with threads that discuss a race, just avoid putting the result in the title. If the earlier thread had been called Sebring Result, instead of Audi Win at Sebring, this dicussion wouldnt have been taking place. I would have avoided the Thread, why should I avoid ALL places? Sebring wasn't the Only race happening over the weekend, I was already avoiding race result and Sportscar sites, can't I go to other places -ie within PH - and feel I can interact without someone telling me in a thread title a race result. If I don't want to know the result of a race keep off the internet? how self centred is that?
Surely it's good manners and consideration to others to try not to spoil something for others?
After this amount of time (24 hours+) after the end of a race I would expect to see the result in the papers etc, I'm and adult, I can cope with that. BTW As it stands I managed to go onto the internet and avoid the Rugby scores all through Saturday and I avoided the England score until I had seen the game, I didn't avoid the papers or the tv media, just certain sections of it. Surely I can get the same for a race result?
There is nothing wrong with threads that discuss a race, just avoid putting the result in the title. If the earlier thread had been called Sebring Result, instead of Audi Win at Sebring, this dicussion wouldnt have been taking place. I would have avoided the Thread, why should I avoid ALL places? Sebring wasn't the Only race happening over the weekend, I was already avoiding race result and Sportscar sites, can't I go to other places -ie within PH - and feel I can interact without someone telling me in a thread title a race result. If I don't want to know the result of a race keep off the internet? how self centred is that?
Surely it's good manners and consideration to others to try not to spoil something for others?
After this amount of time (24 hours+) after the end of a race I would expect to see the result in the papers etc, I'm and adult, I can cope with that. BTW As it stands I managed to go onto the internet and avoid the Rugby scores all through Saturday and I avoided the England score until I had seen the game, I didn't avoid the papers or the tv media, just certain sections of it. Surely I can get the same for a race result?
racefan_uk said:
Can I just say this closing and locking of topics is stupid!
I dont recall anything being closed or locked, just the title being changed which I think is fair enough. It does state on a sticky thread at the top of the page dont put results in the title
I think its fair enough to stick to that rule... and if you want to be pedantic the post is even in the wrong section as it should be in under GT Racing
Hmm, I had this discussion last week after the title of a F1 thread relating to an overtaking move during the race was changed as it ultimately went on to reflect the race result!!
I agree that titles shouldn't reflect race wins but I am also of the opinion that we shouldn't censor discussion because there might be those who haven't seen a result and if titles reflect moves in the race and particular drivers then so be it.
I agree that titles shouldn't reflect race wins but I am also of the opinion that we shouldn't censor discussion because there might be those who haven't seen a result and if titles reflect moves in the race and particular drivers then so be it.
Sorry, don't agree, why should other people who have seen the races (whatever they are, F1, ALMS, a kart race at Shennington, whatever) not discuss them and put titles that reflect what they want to talk about?
I think people are getting a little bit carried away with the results of a motor race. Why would anyone want to hold off from seeing/knowing the result just so they can watch the highlights? It's not going to alter the course of who wins the race, is it?!
Like I said before, people that don't want to know should stay clear of the internet full stop, let alone anywhere near PH or other places.
I really don't see a problem with putting results in threads or in titles. It's up to people steering clear of places they will see the results (titles or not).
Take a leaf out of the Galton and Simpson book and go sit in a church on a Sunday. Better still, sit in front of a TV and watch the race live...
Really people, complaining and worrying about results in titles. It smacks of PH political correctness... And we all know how we berate the PC numptys elsewhere on here, don't we???
I think people are getting a little bit carried away with the results of a motor race. Why would anyone want to hold off from seeing/knowing the result just so they can watch the highlights? It's not going to alter the course of who wins the race, is it?!
Like I said before, people that don't want to know should stay clear of the internet full stop, let alone anywhere near PH or other places.
I really don't see a problem with putting results in threads or in titles. It's up to people steering clear of places they will see the results (titles or not).
Take a leaf out of the Galton and Simpson book and go sit in a church on a Sunday. Better still, sit in front of a TV and watch the race live...
Really people, complaining and worrying about results in titles. It smacks of PH political correctness... And we all know how we berate the PC numptys elsewhere on here, don't we???
racefan_uk said:Rubbish! It's got nothing to do with political correctness at all!
Really people, complaining and worrying about results in titles. It smacks of PH political correctness... And we all know how we berate the PC numptys elsewhere on here, don't we???
It's just common courtesy, that's all - to avoid spoiling the enjoyment other people would get from watching a race after the event without knowing the result.
Maybe you don't have anything else to do at the weekend, so are free to watch every sports event you want live. Most people however actually have lives that don't involve sitting in front of the TV 24/7, and if they want to watch a race then the only option is to watch it later that day/weekend.
Regardless of what you think, for most people, it does spoil the enjoyment somewhat if you know the result beforehand.
All that is being asked is that people don't give away the results in thread titles, not to stop discussing races full stop. It's not too much to ask is it?
racefan_uk said:
Really people, complaining and worrying about results in titles. It smacks of PH political correctness... And we all know how we berate the PC numptys elsewhere on here, don't we???
No it doesnt its just a simple request not to put results in the thread title. discuss all you like in the thread... That doesnt seem to hard a request to me...
Its very easy to scan the thread title and see if there is somthing you dont want to look at and not go any further. If your interested in discussing the results or want ot know them open the thread.. see simple.
Your comming across with "I'll do what I like and sod the rest of you" attitude to what is just a request for a bit of curtosy, and thats what seems over the top...
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ehasler said:
Really people, complaining and worrying about results in titles. It smacks of PH political correctness... And we all know how we berate the PC numptys elsewhere on here, don't we???
It's just common courtesy, that's all - to avoid spoiling the enjoyment other people would get from watching a race after the event without knowing the result.
Maybe you don't have anything else to do at the weekend, so are free to watch every sports event you want live. Most people however actually have lives that don't involve sitting in front of the TV 24/7, and if they want to watch a race then the only option is to watch it later that day/weekend.
Regardless of what you think, for most people, it does spoil the enjoyment somewhat if you know the result beforehand.
All that is being asked is that people don't give away the results in thread titles, not to stop discussing races full stop. It's not too much to ask is it?
I agree that its far better watching the highlights when you dont know the result.
However if people are so busy you cant watch tv then what are they doing sat browsing the net?
racefan_uk said:
Why would anyone want to hold off from seeing/knowing the result just so they can watch the highlights? It's not going to alter the course of who wins the race, is it?!
It's more to do with races in different time zones (overseas races), PH is a global website so a race that is live in one country may not be in another or on at such a stupid hour that no-one will be awake to see, but they will want to watch the race when it is shown and not have to know the result beforehand. But if someones natural routine when logging on here is to check their favourite forums then they can easily stumble into here. They may see a "Race results" title and not chose not to read it but if someone has posted the results in the title it'll spoil it.
It's not for anyone to say "if you don't want to know the results don't come in here" because that just plain ignorant of what people chose to do, not putting spoilers in titles is just pure common sense and courtesy for all, it won't spoil the thread and it won't spoil anyone's day.
All that is being objected to is the thread title.
Yesterday morning I overslept and missed the F1 and had to wait to the lunchtime full race rerun. I nearly didn't go on PH in case some t
t had started a thread entitled "Fizzi wins at Sepang" which I would have seen on my "What's New?" list. Luckily nobody had (or if that had, a kind mod had fixed it). Obviously I didn't go into any threads to do with F1 and if I'd seen one called "Sepang result" or "Malaysian GP" then I would have stayed well clear.
At the end of the day, not putting spoilers in the thread title is like the newsreader who announces the football results who says "and if you don't want to know the result, look away from the screen now".
What's the big deal with that?
Yesterday morning I overslept and missed the F1 and had to wait to the lunchtime full race rerun. I nearly didn't go on PH in case some t
t had started a thread entitled "Fizzi wins at Sepang" which I would have seen on my "What's New?" list. Luckily nobody had (or if that had, a kind mod had fixed it). Obviously I didn't go into any threads to do with F1 and if I'd seen one called "Sepang result" or "Malaysian GP" then I would have stayed well clear. At the end of the day, not putting spoilers in the thread title is like the newsreader who announces the football results who says "and if you don't want to know the result, look away from the screen now".
What's the big deal with that?
zaktoo said:
Yes, but mistakes happen too. When someone makes a balls-up and posts a spoiler title, is it really necessary to keelhaul the poor bloke?
except thats not quite what happened
1) the thread was up with the result in the title
2) some poor chap logs in and sees the title after wanting to watch the highlights
3) someone else requests to the mods that the title is changed so as not to ruin someone elses day.
4) Someone else than has a go at the chap in 2 saying he didnt have to read the thread , not realizing that he didnt as the title has now been changed
5) Another thread is started moaning about threads being locked / deleted ( which they havent)
6) Gobal Jihad and world war 4...
All of which is easily solved by everyone taking .5 nano seconds to think about it and not putting blinking results in a thread title....
no censorship, no PC rubbish, etc etc etc....
Although keelhauling is a thought
ehasler said:
Maybe you don't have anything else to do at the weekend, so are free to watch every sports event you want live. Most people however actually have lives that don't involve sitting in front of the TV 24/7, and if they want to watch a race then the only option is to watch it later that day/weekend.
Regardless of what you think, for most people, it does spoil the enjoyment somewhat if you know the result beforehand.
All that is being asked is that people don't give away the results in thread titles, not to stop discussing races full stop. It's not too much to ask is it?
That's a broad generalisation that I have nothing better to do with my time than sit in front of the TV at the weekend. I actually spent very little time in the house this weekend, but that's beside the point. I knew the GP had been on TV and if I hadnt have wanted to know what the result was, I'd have steered clear of all things that could have told me, including the internet, tv and radio news reports and also includes talking to friends who may have seen it (if I was that bothered, the first thing I actually did was put teletext on and found out who won)
Its not the fact that people want to see highlights etc without knowing the result, I used to do that when I was a kid, or at least try, but I found it to be a stupid exercise eventually.
What I find annoying is that there's a sudden rush to jump on people that are putting threads up on the internet about it. I mean, its a thread title, in a motorsport forum... It's hardly rocket science to avoid the place to avoid finding out a result one way or another. If I start up my internet connection my homepage will have sports results on it, I'd know from the moment I cam online, let alone having to visit a forum where people will undoubtedly want to discuss it.
And yes, I do still believe that its similar to the PC brigade having a go at people. It pangs of the same irony that I keep reading in other sections of the PH forum. Sorry, but it does.
Like I said, I don't begrudge people not wanting to know the result. Great. But why stop other people writing whatever thread title they like to keep them happy?
I suppose its a catch 22, you can't please everyone, someones always going to be fed up with something that other people do.
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