RE: Supercharged TVR gets closer
RE: Supercharged TVR gets closer
Monday 20th March 2006

Supercharged TVR gets closer

Boosted prototypes await dyno testing


Track day Chimaera: more power required!
Track day Chimaera: more power required!

TVR Power reports that its supercharger project is progressing well, and that partner AutoDesign has finalised the system design.

TVR Power has also reported that it's built two prototypes. It's installed a stock 4.0 litre engine into a Chimaera and is finalising the changes to the plenum area to accommodate the supercharger intake. To reduce under bonnet air temperature and radiated heat to the supercharger installation, the exhaust manifolds have been ceramic coated. An added benefit is reduced heat transfer to the car interior so drivers benefit from a cooler cockpit, especially in the summer months.

There's also an installation in a Griffith 500. according to the TVR specialist, the engine is built and waiting for installation into the TVR Griffith 500 prior to mapping of the engine on the new 1500 hp capacity dynamometer (see below).

Changes include:

  • Engine capacity increased to 5.1 litres with reduced compression ratio.
  • Cross-bolted engine block with forged pistons, con-rods and balanced crank.
  • To maximise air volume within the combustion chamber, the intake runner length has been optimised to increase air compression and to tune peak power and torque to the objective RPM.
  • New plenum for improved engine response.
  • Steel rockers with camshaft optimised for supercharging.
  • Higher rate fuel pump, rising rate regulator and high flow injectors
  • Light weight flywheel with triple plate race clutch and centre mounted hydraulic release bearing.
  • Ceramic coated exhaust manifolds.
  • Rear differential gearing changed to a higher ratio, this potentially increasing the theoretical top speed towards 180 mph.

Preliminary studies are being carried out for installation of an intercooler with a planned completion date of June.

This follows TVR Power's announcement in January that together with automotive design consultancy Autodesign, it would offer a supercharger upgrade for the Rover V8 -- serpentine or pre-serpentine -- that could boost the engine's power to 500bhp.

New dyno

TVR Power bought a rolling road in January to allow the company to fine tune its engine packages and quantify the effects of its work both in-house and directly to customers. The new Dynojet 224XLC can measure up to 1,500 horsepower according to TVR Power's Web site and features its own weather station to eliminate any variations caused by atmospheric conditions.

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wedgie

Original Poster:

444 posts

292 months

Monday 20th March 2006
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Oh yes, oh yes... come to Daddy.

Any guesstimations of price, I wonder?

xtr2turbo

1,538 posts

260 months

Monday 20th March 2006
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I've seen a number of Supercharged RV8's in Westfields.

Torque goes through teh roof but power struggles to get over 350bhp (albeit with restrictive exhaust headers). Impressed if they can see a genuine 500bhp
David

225

1,331 posts

255 months

Monday 20th March 2006
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AUstec had a supercharged 3.9RV8 fitted in a Ultima, sounded amazing!

AlexH

2,505 posts

313 months

Monday 20th March 2006
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Would it do much good having 500bhp in a Griff or Chim? Surely you'd end up spinning alot of that away at the back wheels...

macdeb

8,758 posts

284 months

Monday 20th March 2006
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AlexH said:
Would it do much good having 500bhp in a Griff or Chim? Surely you'd end up spinning alot of that away at the back wheels...

and your point is? ,,,,,[only joking, don't flame me]

bennno

15,241 posts

298 months

Monday 20th March 2006
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:bang:

HarryW

16,028 posts

298 months

Monday 20th March 2006
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Interesting this has come out, Peter H (green V8S) has had his supercharger running for a little while now albeit in a 4.6, saying that not sure if its fully functioning yet. As to power/torque levels I think he has quoted low 300's power high 300's torque, not that its been measured but by all accounts its more than adequate, I'm sure he'll post later.

munky

5,328 posts

277 months

Monday 20th March 2006
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180mph in a Chim... frightening! Where do I sign..

dumnonii

32 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st March 2006
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I have seen a RV8 that Dulford fitted in a Marcos that was working well i think it was a 4.6 power 340ish i beleive

BigGriff

2,312 posts

313 months

Tuesday 21st March 2006
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They are also looking at providing the supercharged engine with traction control as well I believe.

dinkel

27,779 posts

287 months

Tuesday 21st March 2006
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macdeb said:
AlexH said:
Would it do much good having 500bhp in a Griff or Chim? Surely you'd end up spinning alot of that away at the back wheels...

and your point is? ,,,,,[only joking, don't flame me]


The point is you're not finished with just the engine done.

Fire99

9,865 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st March 2006
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dinkel said:
macdeb said:
AlexH said:
Would it do much good having 500bhp in a Griff or Chim? Surely you'd end up spinning alot of that away at the back wheels...

and your point is? ,,,,,[only joking, don't flame me]


The point is you're not finished with just the engine done.


To be fair i think the phrase "horses for courses" springs to mind.

I've got a couple of mates with Cobra Replica Kits running Huge Ford V8's and a Supercharged RV8 and they love the fact that they are a bit of an animal.
Not to mention the guy with a GSXR1100 bike with a Turbo running way over 250bhp.

Some of us like an unruly beast.. Now wheres me Pills?

grahambell

2,720 posts

304 months

Tuesday 21st March 2006
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Strange that nobody has yet mentioned the supercharged V8 wedges developed by Dennis Priddle in the late 80s for TVR dealer Dave Haughin. So I'll do it...

dinkel

27,779 posts

287 months

Tuesday 21st March 2006
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Blown wedges.





The first turboed Brit sportscar in production . . .

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Tuesday 21st March 2006
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HarryW said:
Interesting this has come out, Peter H (green V8S) has had his supercharger running for a little while now albeit in a 4.6, saying that not sure if its fully functioning yet. As to power/torque levels I think he has quoted low 300's power high 300's torque, not that its been measured but by all accounts its more than adequate, I'm sure he'll post later.


That's right. The torque has been limited to protect the transmission. I've dropped the compression now and got a slightly stronger gearbox, so I might turn the boost up a little later in the year. The blower is good for about 9 liters equivalent capacity so there's plenty of room for expansion. Mine is a very different approach to TVR Power though. Mine uses a positive displacement blower which gives instant throttle response and huge torque across the board. All of the recent supercharged TVRs I've seen (including the TVR Power ones) use a centrefugal blower. This is more efficient and far easier to package, but the boost is highly sensitive to revs. You can get big numbers out fairly easily, but they don't have the mid range grunt of the positive displacement blowers.

rev-erend

21,619 posts

313 months

Tuesday 21st March 2006
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grahambell said:
Strange that nobody has yet mentioned the supercharged V8 wedges developed by Dennis Priddle in the late 80s for TVR dealer Dave Haughin. So I'll do it...


From the road tests of the time - they compared it with a 390se
vs blown 350i - the blown car just could not put the power down progressively enough - for the 390se was quicker.

The blown car's torque arrives much lower down and there is more of it..

That being said the wedge rear suspension is pretty crude to say the least (before Peter says it )

The noise of the Haugin car makes it all worth while though

gerjo

1,627 posts

311 months

Tuesday 21st March 2006
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AlexH said:
Would it do much good having 500bhp in a Griff or Chim? Surely you'd end up spinning alot of that away at the back wheels...

Agree; I'd say 400 bhp is the maximum the car can take and even then it will start eating clutches, gearboxes etc. Also I don't think the chassis can handle it and it will be almost impossible to control. Futhermore, for 180 mph you surely need some serious aerodynamic mods. Still a nice way for standard RV8's to get a serious power increase and a Chim/griff with 350-400 bhp will be VERY fast anyway, even to today's standards.

itsallyellow

3,879 posts

249 months

Tuesday 21st March 2006
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ive got a range rover with a 4.6 lump with a supercharger. cant get it over 360bhp without loads of work to the engine.
mike

Phil Dicky

7,194 posts

292 months

Tuesday 21st March 2006
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grahambell said:
Strange that nobody has yet mentioned the supercharged V8 wedges developed by Dennis Priddle in the late 80s for TVR dealer Dave Haughin. So I'll do it...


That brings back memories, nearly bought one of those from HHC Hexham in the early ninties, was a 400 bodied one, silver with green leather, very nice.

RichardD

3,608 posts

274 months

Tuesday 21st March 2006
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gerjo said:
...Futhermore, for 180 mph you surely need some serious aerodynamic mods. ....
Have a read of the TVR power website, aero mods are also going to be offered