Anyone interested in a P/X against a Evolution ?

[fsulaim2]

Hi guys,

I currently own a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution (6) and have been contemplating switching to a Cerbera.

I was aware that they are 'expensive' to 'run' (which I can cope with), but I was absolutely horrified by the repair and maintentance costs that I have been advised to expect (£3-6k / year for just general mainentance and 'repair')

I am refocussing my attention to the Griffith which I am advised is a cheaper and more reliable car and possibly a better starting point for someone new to the world of TVR.

This is a long shot in the dark, but is any one interested in a reverse switch ? ie from a Griffith to an Evolution.

I am trying to avoid the hassles of selling privately, and if by chance someone is interested in a swap or a p/x please let me know. I am more iterested in a well documented car, low mileage and condition than I am on age or spec (ie 4.0, 4.3 or 5.0)

Photos:
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The details of my vehicle are below. (My car is worth approx £13k and I am prepared to part with up to £1k on top for the right car)

FULL SPEC:
- Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 6
- GSR Spec
- Ralliart Car No. 157 (one of 500 cars 'officially' imported by Mitsubishi UK)
- Registration: Aug 1999, T Plate
- Mileage: 35,104
- Colour: Scotia White
- No. Previous Owners: 4 (I have owned the car for the last 2 yrs)
- Carbon Fibre Upgrade Pack (Rear Blade, Front & Rear Strut)
- 6x CD Interchanger
- Ralliart Mudflaps
- CAT 1 Alarm & Immobiliser
- Tracker Fitted
- Plus the usual Evo 6 spec (4WD, AYC etc etc)
- Always garaged- This is a weekend car only.
(I have covered 1000 miles in the last 6 months)
- MOT until March 2007.
- Tax until Aug 2006.

Car is totally standard except for:
- DBA 5000 series 2-piece discs at the front (Orginal discs warped - typical problem.)
- DBA 5000 Series single piece discs at the rear (to suit the fronts)

OTHER MAINTENANCE DETAILS
- Original Ralliart Documents Available (Owners Manual, Service Book etc etc)
- Full Mitsubishi Service history. 10x Mitsubishi Stamps. 1x Mission Motorsport Stamp
I have followed the service schedule to the dot.
- All MOT certificates available (5 in total)
- Endless receipts available.

Other bits:
- New battery fitted (last weekend)
- Speed Convertor Changed (Original failed. A known Evo problem)
- Wastegate Actuator Changed (Original corroded. A known Evo problem)
- Brand new tyres fitted. Avon ZZ3's (These have covered less than 200 miles)

EXTERIOR (CONDITION):
- The body work is 99.9% unmarked.
- Front bumper is free from stone chips. Very few visible.
- Wheels totally unmarked. Recently refurbished. (2 months ago)
- Front Calipers - as new.
- Rear Calipers delacquered. These need relacquering.
very minor dings. 2 on the near side doors and one to the left of the 'Ralliart' badge
on the rear boot lid. These are typical 'dent master' dents.

INTERIOR:
Totally standard & unmarked. Seats, headliner, foor cards, carpets, dashboard, steering, totally unmarked.

ENGINE:
Totally standard and unmarked.










>> Edited by fsulaim2 on Sunday 26th March 19:04

>> Edited by fsulaim2 on Sunday 26th March 19:06

[simpo two]

Hi,
Sounds like you've done your homework but I'd make two comments.

1) Yes, a very long shot indeed but it costs nothing to ask

2) There are expensive ways to own a TVR and there more affordable ways to own a TVR. PH is an excellent exchange of information and many hiccups can be dealt with economically, either yourself or at a recommended independent garage.

3) I can wholeheartedly recommend a Griff, but like all TVRs you'll find it a snappy handful after your current steed so be ready for the fact that it's manual-everything with no gadgetry to keep you out of the scenery. However, when you get the hang of it it's well worth it

'There ain't no substitute for cubes.'

NB Bung your ad in PH Classified; it's free.

>> Edited by simpo two on Sunday 26th March 18:19

[fsulaim2]

Thanks for your comments mate.

It is exactly this 'snappy' handling that is appealing to me, together with purity of the driving experience.

The pace of the Evo is simply incredible and in the back roads is simply warp speed - I think very few things would be able to keep up (massive grip, traction, short gearing and huge 0-60 acceleration).

But it does lack a little involvement. Thr grin factor from lighting up the rear tyres and swinging the back end out.

Thats what I want !!

[Painey]

fsulaim2 said:

Thr grin factor from lighting up the rear tyres and swinging the back end out. Thats what I want !!

I'm probably not the only person who's thought that that's all well and good until you go backwards through a hedge!!

[fsulaim2]

It would be a while before I gain any confidence to misbehave in this way.

I would be jumping out of playstation car into one that follows the basic laws of physics...so I would almost need to learn to drive all over again.

I do think anyone who can tame and control these 'purist' cars (TVRs, Elises, Caterhams etc) do become better drivers than the high tech japanese cars.

[Guillotine]

you have learnt well young Fadi...


...maybe you are ready to turn to the darkside.

[simpo two]

fsulaim2 said:

I would be jumping out of playstation car into one that follows the basic laws of physics...so I would almost need to learn to drive all over again.

That's a mighty impressive attitude. I think you may survive your first year of TVR ownership after all

I think the first concept to grasp is that the car is better than you are - well at least mine is more capable than me. Respect them, stay inside the envelope and they reward you big time. When the steering goes light, it's time to back off a bit. If you think you're better, they'll chew up the average driver like a rotty.

As you say (and especially with Griffs I think), it's a purity thing: you have a tubular steel chassis, a massive torquey engine and a pretty body on top. Not much else. If it was a plane it would probably be a Hawker Hurricane.

I guess it's a partnership thing. I've had Griffs for nearly 9 years and can't find anything that fits the bill better for the money. Which reminds me, I haven't fed mine yet; I'm off to throw some raw steak into the garage

NB I'm only one county away from you in Essex so if you want to learn more at first hand, just mail me.

>> Edited by simpo two on Sunday 26th March 21:22

[fsulaim2]

simpo two said:

fsulaim2 said: I would be jumping out of playstation car into one that follows the basic laws of physics...so I would almost need to learn to drive all over again. NB I'm only one county away from you in Essex so if you want to learn more at first hand, just mail me. >> Edited by simpo two on Sunday 26th March 21:22

Thanks Simpo Two. That is very kind of you and I may well take you up on the offer.

I am off on holiday for 2 weeks from the coming weekend, but I will drop you an e-mail upon my return. I would love to see these cars in details and I have endless questions to ask !

[g-boy]

fsulaim2 said:

It would be a while before I gain any confidence to misbehave in this way. I would be jumping out of playstation car into one that follows the basic laws of physics...so I would almost need to learn to drive all over again. I do think anyone who can tame and control these 'purist' cars (TVRs, Elises, Caterhams etc) do become better drivers than the high tech japanese cars.

trust me, a lot of these warnings are hyperbole.

the car is actually a cinch to drive at regular speeds. the throttle is long so you can easily avoid spinning the wheels. just be careful on tight bends as you have to really pull pre-PAS cars. but the 'slow in, fast out' technique is the best advice to start off with

[simpo two]

g-boy said:

trust me, a lot of these warnings are hyperbole.

Clearly you're not going fast enough/using enough revs then! But yes, of course they'll toddle along at 30, 40 or whatever like puppydogs. It's when you get over 4,000 rpm it gets interesting.