supercharging 111r anyone know where from?
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andyholmes said:
HI ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET ONE FROM JUST SOLD MY S2 EXIGE AND GOT MYSELF A S2 111R AND WANT TO ADD A CHARGER TO IT ANYONE GOT ANY IDEAS WHERE I CAN GET ONE FROM??
look into FAQS here is the thread, many tuning parts on different site's...
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=235199&f=15&h=0
By the way how did that Exige drive, I've had a bit disapointing testride this week...maybe because it was to ew? 65km but it did not feel connected as a 111R I testdrove last year with around 1500km on it...?
cheers and have fun chopping for your SC, I saw some Bemani chargers and they seem to be good...?
GTRene
GTRene: When I was test driving Elises, I found that they all varied quite noticeably. The main thing to suffer was the steering weighting and feeling. I now know this to be down to geometry and/or pressures, so it depends how well the dealer looks after their cars. I doubt very much that a dealer with a fleet of 20 cars would maintain exactly the right tyre pressures on all of them from day to day. It is worth driving another Exige just to be sure 
RobM77 said:
GTRene: When I was test driving Elises, I found that they all varied quite noticeably. The main thing to suffer was the steering weighting and feeling. I now know this to be down to geometry and/or pressures, so it depends how well the dealer looks after their cars. I doubt very much that a dealer with a fleet of 20 cars would maintain exactly the right tyre pressures on all of them from day to day. It is worth driving another Exige just to be sure
Thanks I guesed so...and indeed its a new dealer(few months?) who also sells a lot of special cars like Merc SLR and Lambos and now also the Exige S and I gues your right because the steering feeling was just not good anough from my testcar! I remembered the cars I tested from the first Lotus dealer van der kooi in NL and all 4 cars I tested felt very good all very plnted to the road and connected!
Sad that the new dealer in Utrecht NL did not do or do not now anough yet to put a good balanced car in their showroom...? or check it all before give it for a ride...
Anyway I was at Wiesmann factory today for a open day and it was lovely!~specialy the GT car with the V8 4.8is so well made and nice sound and and and(a lot money) but also a very nice chassis totaly alu just like the Elise but then everything(Elise has iron backtray/end) I put up a new thread tomorrow with pictures of that complete Alu chassis and more... it was so nice to see al that handcarafted Alu parts laying around there! I better had not bin there for the second time! now I know for sure, that one day I will own a Wiesmann GT V8 or V10...
So be warned don't go to their factory! you will be sold too
Oh, and I will try another Exige soon again but then one from the oldest dealer, he also races Lotus Exige so he knows how a setup had to be
hopefully they don't destroy my little dreams... GTRene
>> Edited by GTRene on Sunday 26th March 22:50
GTRene said:
GTRene: When I was test driving Elises, I found that they all varied quite noticeably. The main thing to suffer was the steering weighting and feeling. I now know this to be down to geometry and/or pressures, so it depends how well the dealer looks after their cars. I doubt very much that a dealer with a fleet of 20 cars would maintain exactly the right tyre pressures on all of them from day to day. It is worth driving another Exige just to be sure
Thanks I guesed so...
No problem. It is a problem for the buying public though, as it is fairly unusual to drive the same model of car back to back; people normally drive different models to work out which one they need! I know when I first went to a dealer last year to look at and drive two Elises, they were different models (both S2s), and I much preferred one to the other. At the time I assumed it was the differences in the models, but I later learnt that half of what I had picked up on were model differences, and the other half were setup issues linked to geometry, tyre pressures etc. Actually, at the time I did notice the steering to be slightly off centre on one of the cars, and, presumably not by coincidence, the steering feel and linearity of the steering force required was different.
www.ragnorakracing.com/catalog/item/2337807/1782089.htm
Apparently these are the guys if you want to SC your liz
Apparently these are the guys if you want to SC your liz
RobM77 said:
No problem. It is a problem for the buying public though, as it is fairly unusual to drive the same model of car back to back; people normally drive different models to work out which one they need! I know when I first went to a dealer last year to look at and drive two Elises, they were different models (both S2s), and I much preferred one to the other. At the time I assumed it was the differences in the models, but I later learnt that half of what I had picked up on were model differences, and the other half were setup issues linked to geometry, tyre pressures etc. Actually, at the time I did notice the steering to be slightly off centre on one of the cars, and, presumably not by coincidence, the steering feel and linearity of the steering force required was different.
Yep, just one minor fault in the setup can make such car not as planted to the road or not feel as one with the road...so next time I testdrive such car I try to go again to the oldest Lotus dealer with a lot of racing experience and set up stuf, so I'm almost sure its ok and then I have a go to feel what it can do to me...
I'm also in for good deals...I was hoping for a good ride in my favoriet color car that black Exige with black wheels...that ride was a bit less but the deal he talked to me on the phone was al his deal and nothing to do for me...so the biggest disapointing was that part, I forgive that Black Exige for being in the wrong hands and there fore wrong setup(that dealers fault)
GTRene
>> Edited by GTRene on Monday 27th March 18:09
With all due respect, I can't see any dealer over here checking over a car direct from the factory to ensure the geo is correct. Tyre pressures maybe, but a full geo check?
If it's set-up wrong then I'd suggest it's not the dealer's fault but Lotus for sending it out of the factory with crap settings.
If it's set-up wrong then I'd suggest it's not the dealer's fault but Lotus for sending it out of the factory with crap settings.
fair point S...thats also true, you aspect a new car to be good in settings aspecialy when you see al those videos by lotus with their drivers man testing the elises...gues they don't do that anymore? and better painting? lol...though I believe I saw paintshield protector as standard on some new cars in NL.
GTRene
>> Edited by GTRene on Monday 27th March 19:12
GTRene
>> Edited by GTRene on Monday 27th March 19:12
S Works said:
With all due respect, I can't see any dealer over here checking over a car direct from the factory to ensure the geo is correct. Tyre pressures maybe, but a full geo check?
If it's set-up wrong then I'd suggest it's not the dealer's fault but Lotus for sending it out of the factory with crap settings.
When taken delivery of a new car I allways have the geo checked. Can't really trust the factory on this one. Besides that, factory settings are mostly a compromize between tyrewear and handling.
On a demo-car the dealer has to think about the best setup for his customers(geo, tyre pressure and wheel balance). Good handling, means good test impression. You never look for tirewear after a testdrive.
Nico
mevistox5 said:
On a demo-car the dealer has to think about the best setup for his customers(geo, tyre pressure and wheel balance). Good handling, means good test impression. You never look for tirewear after a testdrive.
Nico
Agree with that one, though I think the car I drove by Hessing was not a real demo because it only had 65km on the clock(though it was a 2005 model)
And they are new in the bisness so I could not realy blame them...next time they better do there home work then, seems to me it comes pretty precise those settings?!
They sell a lot of different car brands so maybe they never had that problems with the settings on those cars...
Final thoughts is Lotus should do a better finish job and a dealer could check it when delivered with a proper testdrive to see it feels ok before giving it to a crittical customer
GTRene
mevistox5 said:
With all due respect, I can't see any dealer over here checking over a car direct from the factory to ensure the geo is correct. Tyre pressures maybe, but a full geo check?
If it's set-up wrong then I'd suggest it's not the dealer's fault but Lotus for sending it out of the factory with crap settings.
When taken delivery of a new car I allways have the geo checked. Can't really trust the factory on this one. Besides that, factory settings are mostly a compromize between tyrewear and handling.
On a demo-car the dealer has to think about the best setup for his customers(geo, tyre pressure and wheel balance). Good handling, means good test impression. You never look for tirewear after a testdrive.
Nico
Frankly if Lotus and the dealer network were super-switched on they should give the client the option of how the geo is set before you take delivery. That would be first-class customer service.
S Works said:
Frankly if Lotus and the dealer network were super-switched on they should give the client the option of how the geo is set before you take delivery. That would be first-class customer service.
That's what my dealer is doing, before I take delivery of my new Exige on Wednesday.
Nico
mevistox5 said:
Frankly if Lotus and the dealer network were super-switched on they should give the client the option of how the geo is set before you take delivery. That would be first-class customer service.
That's what my dealer is doing, before I take delivery of my new Exige on Wednesday.
Nico
Hey Nico, your dealer must be Willem van der Kooi? and what Exige do you get? I know he got in a new Exige S the same day the other dealer got it when I tested the standard Exige...
What color do you get and welcome ofcorse you lucky man
GTRene
S Works said:
ah, my apologies. I was referring to second hand Lotuses at Lotus dealers.
Should be the same mate - anything that's on a forecourt should be checked over and set-up correctly. It's a precision instrument after all, not some eurohatch 5k snotter.
True. Should be
. In my experience it sometimes isn't though. I've test driven two Elises from dealers (out of a total of 4 or 5) that have had problems fixable by quick tweaks in the service department. Someone without the patience to do their research could walk away from purchasing a car. The two best Elises that I drove were the Bell and Colvill S2 111S demonstrator - that was one very well sorted car, and the one I ended up buying (also an S2 111S). They drove identically, so both had clearly been looked after and set up well.GTRene said:
Frankly if Lotus and the dealer network were super-switched on they should give the client the option of how the geo is set before you take delivery. That would be first-class customer service.
That's what my dealer is doing, before I take delivery of my new Exige on Wednesday.
Nico
Hey Nico, your dealer must be Willem van der Kooi? and what Exige do you get? I know he got in a new Exige S the same day the other dealer got it when I tested the standard Exige...
What color do you get and welcome ofcorse you lucky man
GTRene
Yep, it's VDK. But the one delivered wasn't an S. It was a "regular" Exige, but with Sportpackage and Ultra Light alloys. VDK adds chassisbrace, nitrons and makes the sways adjustable.
SC is not yet on the list. First learn how to drive with this one properly. Maybe a winterproject?
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