RE: BMW adds IR night vision

RE: BMW adds IR night vision

Monday 27th March 2006

BMW adds IR night vision

New car prices inch upward too


Now comes with Night Vision
Now comes with Night Vision
BMW has announced that its Night Vision system, which uses infrared technology to allow the driver to see beyond current headlight range, is now available on the BMW 5 and 6 Series.

It first appeared in the 7-Series six months ago and uses a Far Infrared (FIR) thermal imaging camera to see heat-emitting objects; some alternative systems use an IR beam to illuminate objects at night. According to BMW, its system creates an image of pedestrians, animals or other heat-emitting objects at distances of up to 300m – far further than any other system currently on offer and further than the 150m range of xenon headlights. The images are then projected onto the iDrive screen.

BMW said it believes its system is superior to rival manufacturers as the images shown are only those that emit the most heat, and so stand out far better in a driver’s peripheral vision. The system means drivers do not have to take their eyes off the road, said BMW, and it is particularly effective on long stretches of unlit road or motorway.

Night Vision is available now on BMW 5, 6 and 7 Series models and costs £1,385.

Price increases

BMW has also inched up the prices of its more popular models, such as a big chunk of the 3-Series range, especially the convertibles, which go up 1.3 per cent while the 6-Series price rises are as high as 1.6 per cent – roughly £750.

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hendry

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1,945 posts

282 months

Monday 27th March 2006
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"...The images are then projected onto the iDrive screen.

BMW said it believes its system is superior to rival manufacturers as the images shown are only those that emit the most heat, and so stand out far better in a driver’s peripheral vision. The system means drivers do not have to take their eyes off the road..."

Other than taking your eyes off the road to look at the iDrive screen of course.

Can't these things project onto the windscreen? That said, this could get confusing if they are projecting elswhere on the screen than where the driver would actually see the heat-emitting object finally appear.

All too clever for it's own good if you ask me. What happened to Hella rally lights?

stenniso

350 posts

231 months

Monday 27th March 2006
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What ever happened to decent street lighting and pedestrians/cyclists wearing visible clothes and using lights?

I think lights should be made compulsory on push bikes, particularly ones for kids. Exemptions could be made for racing bikes, but these should really be used off road anyway.

Mind you, this wouldn't necessarily mean the lights would be used/batteries maintained, but if they're fitted cyclists may actually use them.

oagent

1,786 posts

243 months

Monday 27th March 2006
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Pow.. ZAP! sounds a bit computer game-ish to me.

Surely exhaust gas and engines are hot as well as pedestrians. Could be interesting if you got too close to the car infront.

huge

1,138 posts

284 months

Monday 27th March 2006
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hendry said:

"...The images are then projected onto the iDrive screen.


Just what I was thinking....between Sat-Nav,scameras and now this ,there are more "reasons"
than ever for distracting your attention from road conditions ahead of you.Just out of interest,I cant recall the stopping distances,but if xenons can illuminate 150m ahead,what speed do you need to be doing to require warning of drunks in the road,in the dark,at 300m??

runnersp

1,061 posts

220 months

Monday 27th March 2006
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hendry said:



All too clever for it's own good if you ask me. What happened to Hella rally lights?


Two Carello 100W rally lights, accept no substitute... Although they might be illegal. I think this whole IR thing is a bit of a gimmick. Anyone remember Jason Plato testing the new S-class and the night vision-IR thingy not working? Obviously TV stuff must be taken with a pinch of salt, but i'm still not sure about this stuff.

MikeGalos

261 posts

284 months

Monday 27th March 2006
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hendry said:
"...The images are then projected onto the iDrive screen.

...

Can't these things project onto the windscreen?


That's exactly what Cadillac did with their Forward Looking Infrared system which used a heads-up display projecting the FLIR image onto the bottom of the windscreen of the Deville DTS starting back in 2000. Gee, think BMW marketing should look at what BMW engineering copied badly before announcing how much better they are?

r988

7,495 posts

229 months

Monday 27th March 2006
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stenniso said:
What ever happened to decent street lighting and pedestrians/cyclists wearing visible clothes and using lights?


Not much point in stringing streetlights along a deserted highway, I suspect that is where it's most use, maybe some sort of audible beep if it spotted some large heat source like a human or animal (which obviously could be turned off in the city where 300m visibility isn't needed or wouldn't work correctly anyway).

Amizade

284 posts

225 months

Monday 27th March 2006
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surely eating carrots is far cheaper/more effective?

Ballon

1,172 posts

219 months

Monday 27th March 2006
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i-drive, I crash, is distracting enough as it is without adding a function that would undoubtedly make it more so. Heads up might help but which eye are you going to use for the sat nav?

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Monday 27th March 2006
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Ballon said:
i-drive, I crash, is distracting enough as it is without adding a function that would undoubtedly make it more so. Heads up might help but which eye are you going to use for the sat nav?
Ever driven with it?


No, I thought not.

Anyone who can use a PC will get used to it in a few hours.

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Tuesday 28th March 2006
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Zod said:
Ballon said:
i-drive, I crash, is distracting enough as it is without adding a function that would undoubtedly make it more so. Heads up might help but which eye are you going to use for the sat nav?
Ever driven with it?


No, I thought not.

Anyone who can use a PC will get used to it in a few hours.


I've driven with it and it's unneccesarily complicated.

Not sure it would make me crash but it is definately too complex.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Tuesday 28th March 2006
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whoami said:
Zod said:
Ballon said:
i-drive, I crash, is distracting enough as it is without adding a function that would undoubtedly make it more so. Heads up might help but which eye are you going to use for the sat nav?
Ever driven with it?


No, I thought not.

Anyone who can use a PC will get used to it in a few hours.


I've driven with it and it's unneccesarily complicated.

Not sure it would make me crash but it is definately too complex.
My only real complaint about it is that they moved the air distribution from a simple dial on teh dash to two steps down in the climate menu. They've fixed that on the 3. For the entertainment and nav systems, it is no more distracting to use than the touch screen Alpine system I had in the CSL.

Donut

4,521 posts

251 months

Tuesday 28th March 2006
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We have it on a 7 series and it is brilliant.

When they can add it to the head-up display it will work better.

Yes it is a gimmic and a bit of a distraction if you what it to be...... but its all about inovation and pushing the boundaries of what can be done IMHO

Nowt wrong with that..!!

Ballon

1,172 posts

219 months

Tuesday 28th March 2006
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Zod said:
Ballon said:
i-drive, I crash, is distracting enough as it is without adding a function that would undoubtedly make it more so. Heads up might help but which eye are you going to use for the sat nav?
Ever driven with it?


No, I thought not.

Anyone who can use a PC will get used to it in a few hours.



Curiously I have!

The ergonomics of the Idrive are very good and theoretically it should be an improvement over previous systems. However the functionality and response times are not as good as the system in my M3, hence I personally find it more distracting. Neither does the M3's system fall over as does the Idrive for no apparent reason.

I would also prefer to twiddle a knob for the ventilation but you can't have everything.

Back to the 'Abacus' for me.



Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Tuesday 28th March 2006
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Ballon said:
Zod said:
Ballon said:
i-drive, I crash, is distracting enough as it is without adding a function that would undoubtedly make it more so. Heads up might help but which eye are you going to use for the sat nav?
Ever driven with it?


No, I thought not.

Anyone who can use a PC will get used to it in a few hours.



Curiously I have!

The ergonomics of the Idrive are very good and theoretically it should be an improvement over previous systems. However the functionality and response times are not as good as the system in my M3, hence I personally find it more distracting. Neither does the M3's system fall over as does the Idrive for no apparent reason.

I would also prefer to twiddle a knob for the ventilation but you can't have everything.

Back to the 'Abacus' for me.



I agree that it sometimes reacts too slowly.

burwoodman

18,709 posts

246 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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I thought the I-Drive was far too complicated-non intuitive. Sure you can get used to it but it was also to blame for so many gremlins on my 7. Great car but they can keep the I-Drive

scared but happy

24,110 posts

229 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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What happens when EVERYONE has IR headlights? The screen image will be swamped and useless. I think UV lighting is better (what happened to that).