296 BHP!
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brummiewedge

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5,284 posts

250 months

Tuesday 28th March 2006
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Just back from the dyno, I think that figure is damn respectable!!

dickymint

29,067 posts

287 months

Tuesday 28th March 2006
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Damm fine figures - from memory my SEAC was 287

edited to say I lied it was 271 BHP

>> Edited by dickymint on Tuesday 28th March 15:52

trackcar

6,453 posts

255 months

Tuesday 28th March 2006
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Ah, that'd be at Weston Performance then

badredwedge

3,450 posts

257 months

Tuesday 28th March 2006
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Thats alot of horses Brummie

rev-erend

21,619 posts

313 months

Tuesday 28th March 2006
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Very impressive..

l33

3,469 posts

253 months

Tuesday 28th March 2006
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Nice one mate (but I still want that race)

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Tuesday 28th March 2006
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Nice.

leorest

2,346 posts

268 months

Tuesday 28th March 2006
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Nice.... suits you sir
Come on then, spill the beans.... What's the spec? and if your not too shy how much?

redcar

737 posts

275 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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Top man.Another biggie.

brummiewedge

Original Poster:

5,284 posts

250 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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4.0 cross bolted block, 4.6 crank rods, 4.0 pistons ( more comp about 10.25 )
+ 1.5 mm on valves, throats opened to suit, real steel cam, shortened trumpets, lightened flywheel, Mark Adams chip, Fuel pressure regulated on the dyno for the best compromise, plus a couple of small bits and bobs, but thats the main bit. Bought the 4.0 engine for £700 ( 2001 Disco ) then got a porous 4.6 for not alot for the crank, sold the old 4.0 se motor for around £650, all my own labour and ebaying the left overs, cost me around £700. Not bad eh???

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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Now if that was me... I'd be doing EVERYTHING under the sun to hit the "magic" 300...

brummiewedge

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5,284 posts

250 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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It would if i leaned it off, but that loses 10+ BHP at 4000rpm, thats the trouble with the ancient injection system!!

number 7

4,113 posts

291 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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Very impressive, especially as you've built the engine yourself. Torque must be good on the 4.6, I'd be interested to know what it peaked at, and if you've got the "at the wheels" figures.

7.

HarryW

16,026 posts

298 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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number 7 said:
Very impressive, especially as you've built the engine yourself. Torque must be good on the 4.6, I'd be interested to know what it peaked at, and if you've got the "at the wheels" figures.

7.

Ah No7 what did yours come out with in the end , gotta love 4.3's .

brummiewedge

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Wednesday 29th March 2006
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Torque was just under 290lbs, at the wheels around 240BHP.

number 7

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Wednesday 29th March 2006
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brummiewedge said:
Torque was just under 290lbs, at the wheels around 240BHP.


Now I would have thought that the torque should be higher than that - has the MA chip been re-mapped post the engine build? And are the injectors coping? Presumably you needed to crank the fuel pressure up quite a bit?

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>> Edited by number 7 on Wednesday 29th March 11:47

number 7

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291 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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HarryW said:
Ah No7 what did yours come out with in the end , gotta love 4.3's .


Hi Harry. Well, after all the hanging around, finally got 297 bhp (corrected from 255 at the wheels) and 320 of torque. I think that "only" 14% transmission loss is quite conservative though. The power was still climbing when it hit my self-imposed limiter of 6100 rpm (real, not tacho), but I thought a bit of mechanical sympathy was in order

HarryW

16,026 posts

298 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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number 7 said:
HarryW said:
Ah No7 what did yours come out with in the end , gotta love 4.3's .


Hi Harry. Well, after all the hanging around, finally got 297 bhp (corrected from 255 at the wheels) and 320 of torque. I think that "only" 14% transmission loss is quite conservative though. The power was still climbing when it hit my self-imposed limiter of 6100 rpm (real, not tacho), but I thought a bit of mechanical sympathy was in order


Thats pretty impressive as you say 255 @ the wheels is very good and could read 300-310 on other roads, loads to torque . Did you have an issue with the RR printout only going up to 5K5 , I kow they are about to change RR's over to a new one. btw My little 4ltr showed 237 and 247lb @ the wheels corrected to 275 & 285 . Whilst the torque peaks at 4K5 the power graph chops at 275hp @ 5K5rpm still climbing , whereas I know it actually peaks around 6K1rpm. Shame its got to make room for a cerb now tho .

brummiewedge

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Wednesday 29th March 2006
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It did make 313bhp in 4th gear, but the dyno is set up to be more accurate in 3rd..whatever, i'm no dyno expert, but theoretically i could have claimed it!! Chip was out of another car, i'm not spending loads of money setting up a sh:te old injection system, i'd put the money into emerald.

HarryW

16,026 posts

298 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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brummiewedge said:
It did make 313bhp in 4th gear, but the dyno is set up to be more accurate in 3rd..whatever, i'm no dyno expert, but theoretically i could have claimed it!! Chip was out of another car, i'm not spending loads of money setting up a sh:te old injection system, i'd put the money into emerald.

Interesting, I understood this 3rd/4th gear thingy was an excess speed issue for the Rolling road, for a RV8/LT77/T5 car it makes little or no difference, if anything the torque multiplier of being in 3rd should give higher readings for Torque over a 4th (1:1 ratio) gear run from my limited understanding .

I think we'll leave it there though, as this forum, like the S forums, is not one for going around in circles banging anyones particular drum .