This one is fast, the dark half of the Elise...

[GTRene]

I'm looking for a while for something else, a lightweight fast car but also not to expensive...I know thats difficult
In the Netherlands there is not much you can buy for a nice price tag...no Exige or Elise as much as in GB or Germany...and then if you shop outdoors you get a big BPM tax bill...
And I had a Opel Speedster turbo before...1 month long, I hated that slow accelerator for emisions? when you back off or shift it was not connected(accelerator)
But in my place of birth not to far from where I life at the moment is a very fast Opel Speedster turbo(VX220 turbo) for sale with 390ps! I have seen it on some cirquits where it did street sprint 1/4mile? and it realy was like a rocket unbelieveble, and now its even faster with new stuf only did 4.000km it can go from 0 to 62 in under 4 sec but more importand from 0 to 200km/h(125mph) in 10.2 sec thats a fast car but hey its got 390ps and weight according to the details only 880kg and comes with a hardtop, maybe I go and look this week if its stil for sale
GTRene
here a picture of that beast...


>> Edited by GTRene on Wednesday 29th March 22:40

[S Works]

I actually really like these if they're well specced up. I saw a couple of absolute minters at Plans Motorsport recently when I was there and they looked absolutely stunning. Get over the 'not a Lotus' bit and they're great cars if set-up correctly, and guys like Thorney can get a helluvalot of grunt out of them for small outlay.

Worth a look at least.

[cej]

but..'It's NOT a lotus'

Just kidding. I like the looks of it. But I must admit I like the elise even better

[GTRene]

I also like the Elise better, specialy inside...but that 390hp...thats what I like to feel, when I read his threads on a speedster forum they tested it also by Brabus Germany, before he changed to even charper nocks...almost 380ps...now it has 390...in such car, he said when he was in third gear and he accelerates even then he had wheelspin(that was a few months ago with colder weather 3degrees so thats more easy)
he is complaining his latest testride only 287km/h or so...he said have to change the gearbox to go faster
0 to 125mph in just 10.2 sec thats a blast to the p... euhm into the future?
GTRene

>> Edited by GTRene on Thursday 30th March 00:16

[bjc388]

Obviously I prefer the Lotus since that's where I put my money BUT the VX220 turbo is very very nice ... especially tuned up. Same chassis and the usual tuning toys of exhaust, nitrons, 048's etc fit as well. The turbo engine will make it a much easier car to drive on the roads.

[bogie]

sounds good...but I wonder how much lag there is from a 2.0L engine pushing 390ps .....remember how bad a Mitsi Evo 400MR is ....2K rev powerband and an on/off switch power delivery

still - it would be interesting to try

[Phil-CH]

Personally I'd be nothing for me. Power is one thing, fun and handling another. GTRene, if it's power you're after, why not try a Caterham (perhaps an 2nd hand superlight) or a CSR?

[S Works]

Is it possible to supercharge that engine? That might be an interesting prospect on a VX. Anyone know of anybody who's tried?

[gooby]

S Works said:

Is it possible to supercharge that engine? That might be an interesting prospect on a VX. Anyone know of anybody who's tried?

You mean twincharging? Supercharger and turbo. There are a few Mk1 Mr2's with this. They are foookin ballistic missiles. Putting your foot down in one of those was described as " standing in front of a fast moving bus"

[S Works]

Hadn't thought of doubling up, more taking off the Turbo and sticking a blower on instead to get rid of the lag.

Must take a look over at Thorney Motorsport...

[cej]

GTRene: get an Elise S1, drop a Honda K in it. Tune it naturally aspirated.

www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1575266

230 wheel hp ( 260 bhp+ ) ,all stock internals, intake /header/ exhaust.

I'll soo be able to tell you how much we could squeeze from a K20 with toda cams+springs+retainers,stock intake IM, and a race exhaust. Going to the dyno on Wednesday

[GTRene]

bogie said:

sounds good...but I wonder how much lag there is from a 2.0L engine pushing 390ps .....remember how bad a Mitsi Evo 400MR is ....2K rev powerband and an on/off switch power delivery still - it would be interesting to try

Today I was with those people, very nice chap, a young man of 53!! lol he did everything what he could do at Vmax tuning germany...special oil cooled pistons wich could do 700>>1000hp watercooled intercooler turbotimers ATS lightweight wheels lightweight flywheel and much much more...very nice car and well taken care of! the car is weighted at 880kg official...so all is very fast, but today a bit moisty road so no way for a testride and the turbo almost no lag he told when I ask he says What lag... its a ligt car and 1.9 boost? 390ps...anyone like a go in that car? me me me, he told me we could have a go when its dry so maybe I go back in a few weeks? but he does not do px so I told him when I have cash money I maybe buy something else...he also has some video's? but have to find then maybe I post here one when I find it...
GTRene

[GTRene]

cej said:

GTRene: get an Elise S1, drop a Honda K in it. Tune it naturally aspirated. www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1575266 230 wheel hp ( 260 bhp+ ) ,all stock internals, intake /header/ exhaust. I'll soo be able to tell you how much we could squeeze from a K20 with toda cams+springs+retainers,stock intake IM, and a race exhaust. Going to the dyno on Wednesday

Hey Chris, yep sounds nice too looks good that dyno, keep us posted after wednesday must also be a race car to drive...
But that 390hp speedster I've seen today must be a bullit...
GTRene

[iaint]

GTRene said:

its a ligt car and 1.9 boost? 390ps...anyone like a go in that car?

I can't imagine there being no lag at that boost level. To push an extra 160-200ish ponies out of the 2.0 engine needs a big turbo and big turbos need a big engine to flow enough to spool quickly. 2.0 isn't a big engine!

test drive will prove everything though - sounds absolutely mental!

[GTRene]

here a small video when it was not ready and around 350ps I believe he said

www.speedsterclub.nl/phpBB2/files/afbeelding_001.mpg
GTRene

[piooly]

iaint said:

GTRene said: its a ligt car and 1.9 boost? 390ps...anyone like a go in that car? I can't imagine there being no lag at that boost level. To push an extra 160-200ish ponies out of the 2.0 engine needs a big turbo and big turbos need a big engine to flow enough to spool quickly. 2.0 isn't a big engine! test drive will prove everything though - sounds absolutely mental!

Who care about lag, give it a few more revs and then feed the clutch in, must be nuts. I have been tempted quite few times by the VX220 turbo. I like the style, very hard looking, yes its not got the badge but hey, it goes like stink, as evo says, its all about the way the car makes you feel !

[GTRene]

piooly said:

iaint said: GTRene said: its a ligt car and 1.9 boost? 390ps...anyone like a go in that car? I can't imagine there being no lag at that boost level. To push an extra 160-200ish ponies out of the 2.0 engine needs a big turbo and big turbos need a big engine to flow enough to spool quickly. 2.0 isn't a big engine! test drive will prove everything though - sounds absolutely mental! Who care about lag, give it a few more revs and then feed the clutch in, must be nuts. I have been tempted quite few times by the VX220 turbo. I like the style, very hard looking, yes its not got the badge but hey, it goes like stink, as evo says, its all about the way the car makes you feel !

For a go in such fast car I don't care to much either, but when I would own such car then I will care...
But the guy said there is no or almost no turbo lag! and at least the same torque as the standard, but on boost more then 500nm! its a garett turbo with water cooled intercooler and sinterclutch? and light flywheel, special pistons oil cooled from under? and ofcorse a lot more stronger made parts in that engine...wich could stand up at least 700hp(pistons and rods and crankshafts? anyway looks good, maybe a shorter life but a happy life I guess
GTRene

[red_lotus]

V nice indeed! But wait where is the nose badge???? Is the Owner embarrased? Why do people feel the need to debadge their cars? It's a cool car in it's own right, a lot faster than mine.

[Code Monkey]

S Works said:

Hadn't thought of doubling up, more taking off the Turbo and sticking a blower on instead to get rid of the lag. Must take a look over at Thorney Motorsport...

There are superchargers kits for the 2.2 might give a less laggy response and bigger capacity might provide more torque on top.

[GTRene]

red_lotus said:

V nice indeed! But wait where is the nose badge???? Is the Owner embarrased? Why do people feel the need to debadge their cars? It's a cool car in it's own right, a lot faster than mine.

Good spotting he debadged the whole car realy everything, bud ad speedster on the steering wheel and on the back he add some VXR(in the Netherlands they called Opel Speedster Turbo) something badge...and very small on the side Vmax tuning (thats his tuner in Germany)
The guy owned before thsi a E46 M3 and before that a 480hp porsche turbo, but he says with such car its all to easy, not much drivers involvement...
GTRene