RE: Government agrees new scamera sites
RE: Government agrees new scamera sites
Friday 31st March 2006

Government agrees new scamera sites

233 extra speed camera locations


Prepare for more cameras
Prepare for more cameras
The Government has authorised 233 new speed camera sites across England, according to a written statement lodged in Parliament. It has also decommissioned 30 sites where  it said safety has improved.

However, a transport ministry spokesman said that new sites didn't automatically mean new cameras. Any new camera would have to adhere to strict guidelines, he said.

Paul Smith, founder of the Safe Speed road safety campaign, said: "Speed cameras are bad news for road safety because they focus efforts on the wrong safety targets. Department for Transport clearly has not been reading its own research properly because the report published shows that claims of benefits at speed camera sites have been vastly overrated.

"We will not get road safety back on track while a single speed camera remains on our roads."

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dogwatch

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6,383 posts

252 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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Heard Paul's comments on local radio station yesterday. Excellent!

Thought I read/heard that increase would include mobiles but as they seem to park up anywhere not sure how they can be classified as 'sites'.

ashes

628 posts

284 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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And this after the assurance that there would be no more - oh yes that was probably before the election

huge

1,138 posts

314 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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"However, a transport ministry spokesman said that new sites didn't automatically mean new cameras. Any new camera would have to adhere to strict guidelines, he said."


hahahahahaha.......

summit7

1,280 posts

259 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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These things breed quicker than rabbits, still only one answer to vermin, blow its bl@@dy head off!

havoc

33,456 posts

265 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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ashes said:
And this after the assurance that there would be no more - oh yes that was probably before the election

Of course - dangle just enough of a carrot to get the donkeys (sorry, electorate) to go where you want to, then whisk it away when you're there...they'll have forgotten all about it in 5 years!

Politician = lying scumbag

ubergreg

261 posts

261 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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“It has also decommissioned 30 sites where it said safety has improved.”

Eh?

If we follow the line of thinking that speed cameras are an effective deterrent: won’t removing the scameras at ‘de-commissioned’ sites remove drivers’ inhibition to travel over the posted limit?

What a beautifully inconsistent, un-scientific, ill-conceived and arbitrary policy this is!

As long as they keep painting those little bastards yellow, I’ll be happy enough.

Dommo

103 posts

272 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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ubergreg said:
“It has also decommissioned 30 sites where it said safety has improved.”

Eh?

If we follow the line of thinking that speed cameras are an effective deterrent: won’t removing the scameras at ‘de-commissioned’ sites remove drivers’ inhibition to travel over the posted limit?

What a beautifully inconsistent, un-scientific, ill-conceived and arbitrary policy this is!

As long as they keep painting those little bastards yellow, I’ll be happy enough.


probably more where they're not making enough money...

IPAddis

2,526 posts

314 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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Is the bloke who invented the Gatso up for a peerage?

esselte

14,626 posts

297 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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"....It has also decommissioned 30 sites where it said safety has improved."....

So,out of a toatal of around 6000? sites ,safety has improved at only 30?Well they're working then aren't they?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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Fatalaties are UP in Northamptonshire this year.

dogwatch

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6,383 posts

252 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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IPAddis said:
Is the bloke who invented the Gatso up for a peerage?


A former Dutch rally driver? Quite possibly - if he loans Our Tone a few bob...

esselte

14,626 posts

297 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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dogwatch said:
IPAddis said:
Is the bloke who invented the Gatso up for a peerage?


A former Dutch rally driver? Quite possibly - if he loans Our Tone a few bob...



I think that was the implication.

sgt^roc

512 posts

279 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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They must have reached the conclusion they need cameras on every road to force casualties down and not loose the revenue, but for a failing policy it’s a bit of a long shot. Just how do they justify disregarding the research data that clearly displays serious problems with speed cameras.

It is clear that they want only to achieve causality reductions via a cash return; at least we now understand the value being put on a life which is 3 points and 60 quid.

joesnow

1,533 posts

257 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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I am all for safe driving and safe speeds - if you can't drive to the conditions then you are not fit to drive, and as many have said before, I hate this type of policing. Just stick a sensor in place and let the driver be judged. In some places cameras are a great idea and work very well, but most I have seen are hidden behind lamposts, on the way out of a 30mph to a 50mph zone etc...

I would quite happily fund an underground hit squad ala The A-Team to go around taking out these money making PITAs.

On the other hand, I don't mind others being caught and being fined for it, it saves me paying extra road tax etc... Joe - clean licence.

UncleDave

7,155 posts

261 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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joesnow said:
I would quite happily fund an underground hit squad ala The A-Team to go around taking out these money making PITAs.


Any day!

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

271 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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UncleDave said:
joesnow said:
I would quite happily fund an underground hit squad ala The A-Team to go around taking out these money making PITAs.


Any day!


Same here!

Kinda like Road Angel, but your subscription goes towards the dirty work, rather than a database update

Dave

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

255 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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esselte said:
dogwatch said:
IPAddis said:
Is the bloke who invented the Gatso up for a peerage?


A former Dutch rally driver? Quite possibly - if he loans Our Tone a few bob...



I think that was the implication.



well he died, aged 78...last may i believe

anniesdad

14,589 posts

268 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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BliarOut said:
Fatalaties are UP in Northamptonshire this year.


Well you know Northamptonshire problem, don't you? Not enough scameras obviously.

dogwatch

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6,383 posts

252 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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lord summerisle said:
esselte said:
dogwatch said:
IPAddis said:
Is the bloke who invented the Gatso up for a peerage?


A former Dutch rally driver? Quite possibly - if he loans Our Tone a few bob...



I think that was the implication.



well he died, aged 78...last may i believe


Googled Maurice Gatsonides. Died 29/11/98 apparently. Thought he was still with us - still is with reminders all over the country. Our Tone would love such a legacy, surely?

AMG Merc

11,955 posts

283 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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Ah, les Francaise would never stand the amount of these pathetic little devices we have to put up with here in le UK! But apart from a small number of rebels (hero's?!) all we Brits seem to do is moan (me included! ) and the governement seems to know that they can do what the hell they like to us safe-driving, law abiding, taxpaying, taxpaying, taxpaying motorists - oh did I mention that we pay tax (a lot)?! :

Viva le Revolution!