A camera for a beginner
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Autonotiv

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2,673 posts

254 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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Well i would like to start taking pics after seeing what you lot can do.
So what would the best digital camera be for a beginner?
Its also got to be quite cheap.
I would also like to connect it to my computer, so it needs a USB connection.

Any ideas/Websites???

Cheers


Autonotiv

GetCarter

31,293 posts

309 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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Hi James

I guess you're into cars - so it depends if you go to tracks/races as to whether an SLR is the way to go or not. If you get an SLR you can put telephoto lenses on it to get close to the action. A compact (although they try) is nowhere near as good. But they are a lot cheaper.

Most important - What's you budget?

nicecupoftea

25,595 posts

281 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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Don't forget if you are starting from scratch you need to factor in a couple of lenses as well.

There are some decent compacts that have full manual modes that can be good to "learn the ropes" - this is what I am doing at the moment.

I have a Canon S80 which is excellent - my brother bought the new version of it (S90?) which is even better.

Autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

254 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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Budget, ermmmmmm well lets say £150, for now.

>> Edited by Autonotiv on Tuesday 4th April 18:16

>> Edited by Autonotiv on Tuesday 4th April 18:19

GetCarter

31,293 posts

309 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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Hi again - well DSLR's are not an option for that price (but film SLR's are). I saw last week that the Olympus 400 was the best digital compact for under £200 (less than £150 to buy actually) in 'What Digital Camera' mag.

If you are buying new, I guess these are the people to believe.

Good luck, have fun.

Steve

Autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

254 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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I would most proberly buy secondhand,
and i would like to to be digital,(film SLR, i guess it has a film???)
so i need a digital camera (of some sort) for £150-ish, that can load pics on to the comp.

cheers

Auto

Piglet

6,250 posts

285 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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I've got a little Nikon Coolpixs, can't remember which number. It's a good little camera for outdoor shots, the quality indoor with the flash is pretty consistent with this type of camera. Don't try and take pictures of moving cars though - the shutter delay will lead to many many pictures of empty tarmac!!!

te51cle

2,342 posts

278 months

Tuesday 4th April 2006
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For a starter camera capable of producing good results I'd recommend you test drive the Fuji Finepix F10, its down around £150 nowadays at Pixmania etc. Its really strong point is that it has very little noise for a compact which makes it good for social occasions as well as more creative photography, the sort of machine you'd keep around even when you graduate to an SLR.

Autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

254 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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There are some cheap F10's about, so i may get one.
Cheers

Autonotiv

ehasler

8,579 posts

313 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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Don't worry too much about plugging your camera into your PC - I find it easier and faster to use a USB card reader which you can find for around £10 or less these days. Plug this into your PC, and you can then access your memory cards like another disk.

lightningghost

4,943 posts

279 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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My first camera is a Fujifilm. It's not the best camera ever, but it always works, it's easy to use, looks good and is a really nice shape for the hand. Mine is a Finepix A340.



Oh, and great name, Autonotiv!

Autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

254 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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lightningghost said:



Oh, and great name, Autonotiv!


Cheers.

So does Fujifilm mean it has a film in it??
or does it have a card?
so i can get any camera that has a card, and get one of the card connectors???

Cheers

Autonotiv

ehasler

8,579 posts

313 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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Autonotiv said:
so i can get any camera that has a card, and get one of the card connectors???


You just need something like this You can find cheaper ones, but that gives you an idea of what they look like. PC World and Jessops will do them too.

If you want to get a good idea of what cameras are available at your sort of price range, then check out www.warehouseexpress.com - they've got a large selection and plenty of info about them. Good service too, and pretty good prices.

J1mmyD

1,823 posts

249 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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Auto, fujifilm is a make - the same as Nikon or Olympus.

The suggestions that are being made are all digital cameras. (In this day and age, only dinosaurs like me still use film).

Compacts are what you are having recommended to you. With these, you look through a separate viewfinder, usually with a little graphic inside it to show you what the actual lens will see.

SLR's are camera where you actually view what the lens itself sees. (This does mean that you don't see the actualy instance where the photo is taken as the mirror moves to allow light to the film (or sensor) instead of to your eye).

What you need to understand are the differences between automatic and manual cameras.

If you use manual settings, you will be able to change the speed at which the shutter opens and closes (blurring movement in the actual photograph); you can also change the aperture settings which will allow you to change the depth of field of the photo - that's the parts that are in focus as opposed to a blurred background. Basically ... you're looking to control how much and over what period of time the light enters the camera.

I don't know if I'm talking down to you here - that's certainly not my intent - it's just that there are some strange questions being asked above.

I started playing with cameras when I was about 13 with an old, fully manual (and bloody heavy) russian built zenith. I think this is a great way to learn because what you put in directly affects what you get out.

Pop down to your local camera exchange (pick a quiet time) and talk to the guys about something like a second hand olympus that's got full manual as well as automatic functions.

That way you can instantly get pretty good 'point and press' photos while still be able to play around to your heart's content at the more 'arty' manual stuff.

Autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

254 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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So for me the ideal type of camera would be a digital.
then move up to an SLR.

Cheers for the help.

Autonotiv

vipers

33,514 posts

258 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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If you want a decent, cheap digi camera, visit your local Jessops, they all do a good line of used equipment, they dont buy it in, if it dont work, so your getting a good bargain there.

For example, if I traded in my Canon 350D for a newer model, they would give me rock bottom price for a perfectly good camera, so why not give them a try, they are usually good for advice as well.

Good luck, photography is fun.

Autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

254 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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Will go and have a look in jessops.

Cheers

Autonotiv

football_taxi

23 posts

254 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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If you can stretch to a bit more i would recomend a 2nd hand sony F717, its really easy to get good results from the box, it has a decent zoom ramge and has a lot of manual controls for if you want to develop your skills further.

Autonotiv

Original Poster:

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254 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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Sounds good, had a look on e-bay, there is only one, and its starting prize is £250.

cheers

football_taxi

23 posts

254 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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I think hes in a dream world, if you look at completed items you will see they usualy go for £155 - £175 , you would normally get a few memory cards with that.