Email from the A&S camera partnership (SPECS?)
Discussion
Safecam.org.uk said:
Operational Case 2006/07 (general news - this is not a press release)
05/04/2006 14:05
OPERATIONAL CASE
Our Operational Case for 2006/07 has now been approved by the Transport Minister and it will shortly be made available to download from our website (www.safecam.org.uk.) No new camera sites have been identified for this year’s operation, and four sites have been decommissioned.
CAMERA SITE CHANGES
Two of these four camera sites were decommissioned because the enforcement now falls within 20mph zones introduced in South Gloucestershire (Little Stoke Lane ID258 and A420 Two Mill Hill Road ID152.) A further camera site has been decommissioned in Taunton because it has proved impossible to park the enforcement vehicle (A3027 North Street/East Street ID9.) A redlight site which was previously approved, has not been installed due to a change of circumstances reported by the local highway authority (B4058 Perrinpit Road ID RL65, South Gloucestershire.)
A further 3 fixed camera sites have been changed to mobile enforcement by request from the local highway authority - the A370 Backwell ID101 in North Somerset, the A372 Red Post ID8 in South Somerset, and the A431 Bath Road, Longwell Green ID213 in South Gloucestershire.
The local highway authority holds further information behind these changes. Our website has been updated to reflect these changes.
NEW DFT GUIDELINES
The new guidelines for 2006/07 issued by the DfT have now enabled Partnerships to look at route enforcement. A route must be between 5km and 20km and cover a minimum of 3 existing core sites within the length. Routes still require approval as it means that enforcement can be carried out along the entire stretch not just within the existing sites. This has been introduced to try to avoid drivers ‘surfing’ by only slowing down for cameras.
It needs to be highlighted that the speed limit should be adhered to at all times and not just where there is camera enforcement.
The Partnership is considering route enforcement along arterial routes in to Bristol. Further developments on route enforcement will be publicised to keep in line with our open approach.
END
So am I right in thinking that route enforcement means we're getting SPECS cameras sometime?
>> Edited by J500ANT on Thursday 6th April 19:50
Peter Ward said:
The way I read it, it means that they can put their talivan anywhere along the road, because somewhere along that 20km stretch there was once a speed-related KSI.
That's how I read it as well - whatever happened to placing scameras only at accident blackspots? Perhaps they're trying to create more blackspots......
Sorry, being stupid, I'm sure I read a thread some time ago that suggested that scameras were perhaps only to raise revenue and not to increase safety.....
julianc said:
The way I read it, it means that they can put their talivan anywhere along the road, because somewhere along that 20km stretch there was once a speed-related KSI.
That's how I read it as well - whatever happened to placing scameras only at accident blackspots? Perhaps they're trying to create more blackspots......
Sorry, being stupid, I'm sure I read a thread some time ago that suggested that scameras were perhaps only to raise revenue and not to increase safety.....
It's enough to make one a little suspicious about their motives isn't it?
Peter Ward said:
The way I read it, it means that they can put their talivan anywhere along the road, because somewhere along that 20km stretch there was once a speed-related KSI.
A common misconception, but the KSI that these scum use to justify their cash machines, dont have to have anything to do with speed. The KSI's they use could be accidents happening at 10mph, or as in one case, someone commiting suicide from a bridge.
SPECS are average speed cameras - there are sets of cameras a known distance apart, which in theory can be anything from a few hundred metres to several kilometres.
They read your numberplate when you enter and exit the specs zone and calculate your average speed, and if its above the limit allowed for that stretch of road you get sent a NIP.
>> Edited by njwc on Tuesday 11th April 15:31
They read your numberplate when you enter and exit the specs zone and calculate your average speed, and if its above the limit allowed for that stretch of road you get sent a NIP.
>> Edited by njwc on Tuesday 11th April 15:31
Thanks for the explanation njwc. How can you tell if you are passing one of these SPECS scameras and does it flash in order to read your numberplate? 
leadfootlydon said:
Reading past the 'speed cameras are being de-commisioned', we find out what is really going on.
They are replacing fixed cameras with mobile units.
That's just great. Proof at least that Road Angel works. And proof also that within a few years it will be worthless.
I'm probably being an optimist, but I don't think it'll be long before we can mount a CCTV camera facing forwards, or even all round, that can scan for anything police or camera related, and warn us... it might sound excessive, but with the power of modern computers it can't be far away now! Image recognition is already proving usefull for speed detection simply from images and the movement, and also for ANPR as we have seen, which can detect certain shapes for example.
Dave
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