Speeding solicitor :laugh:
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Another top ranking high level official gets stopped for speeding. Harriet Harman the solicitor General, is stopped by Police doing 99 (dubious??) along the M4 whilst returning her son to university.
How conveiniant that is was only 99 luckily she avoids a ban?? I suspect had she been caught going quicker it wouldn't have made a jot of difference to her job or the ability to work had she been banned. I suspect taxis's and chaffuered limos would have been on the cards. Apparently she is going to plead guilty at the earliest opportunity.
Just shows again that even those with a great knowledge of law are willing to break it when it works in their favour. I wonder if she will join the ABD??
Perhaps she would make a good figure head for leading the charge towards higher Mway limits!!
How conveiniant that is was only 99 luckily she avoids a ban?? I suspect had she been caught going quicker it wouldn't have made a jot of difference to her job or the ability to work had she been banned. I suspect taxis's and chaffuered limos would have been on the cards. Apparently she is going to plead guilty at the earliest opportunity.
Just shows again that even those with a great knowledge of law are willing to break it when it works in their favour. I wonder if she will join the ABD??
Perhaps she would make a good figure head for leading the charge towards higher Mway limits!!
Labour - Tough on crime, Tough on the causes of Crime..
Labour - Speeding is antisocial and should be considered a criminal act.
So I guess they're saying that good old Harriet, the solicitor general, should therefore be considered a criminal and that they - Labour - should get tough with her...
However like many in things in life, she's certain to get away with it cos' of who she is and the fact that Labour seem prepared to alter/add knee jerk legislation to protect their own and swing the balance in the favour of the offenders.
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Labour - Speeding is antisocial and should be considered a criminal act.
So I guess they're saying that good old Harriet, the solicitor general, should therefore be considered a criminal and that they - Labour - should get tough with her...
However like many in things in life, she's certain to get away with it cos' of who she is and the fact that Labour seem prepared to alter/add knee jerk legislation to protect their own and swing the balance in the favour of the offenders.
:gladigotthisoffmychest: Somebody who has reached that position in society is clearly intelligent and has to make judgement on a daily basis.
On that particular day the level of traffic,road & weather conditions were obviously condusive to travelling at that speed,without putting herself,son or other road users excessive danger.Hopefully this will be seen as a positive approach to the current speeding embargo...perhaps not though!
On that particular day the level of traffic,road & weather conditions were obviously condusive to travelling at that speed,without putting herself,son or other road users excessive danger.Hopefully this will be seen as a positive approach to the current speeding embargo...perhaps not though!
In the area I work there are large Govt sponsored advertisments on the backs of Buses. They state
SPEEDING IS A CRIMINAL ACT, being late is not!
She obviously hasn't spent much time looking at the rear of buses as she would have seen the message!
Sadly she will not probably now be forced to use such a vehicle for these advertisments
SPEEDING IS A CRIMINAL ACT, being late is not!
She obviously hasn't spent much time looking at the rear of buses as she would have seen the message!
Sadly she will not probably now be forced to use such a vehicle for these advertisments
She should be forced to resign.. that would be sweet.. 
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From today's Times:
Also..
umm.. has she just admitted Driving without Due Care & Attention?
“Harriet Harman is very sorry that she exceeded the speed limit. She fully recognises that she should have paid more attention to the speed at which she was travelling,”
Also..
John Prescott, the Deputy Prime Minister, has four speeding convictions, the last in 1997 when he drove at 80mph on a 30mph section of the icy M62 motorway. He said that he was going to a constituency surgery and did not want to keep people waiting in the cold.
Oh what a shame. And of all the people it could happen to .... didums. Harriet Harman, and she's got some serious competition, still easily stands out as Labour's most feeble minded and uninspiring senior politician.
Never had an original thought, can't grasp anyone else's either, permanently "on message".
I remember hearing her bleating on the today programme about how great it was to have achieved 75% success rate getting single mothers back into work.
It was pointed out to her that the target was to get 25,000 people onto the scheme, but in fact across the entire country only about a dozen people had shown up. Therefore 75% actually meant that the scheme had got 8 single mothers into work ... at a cost of 100k each. And no account had been taken that, in any case, they might have got a job without government assistance during that time.
The presenter asked her if the word "success" seemed out of place when all these facts were considered? Dear Harriet replied that 75% was pretty good. She really didn't seem to understand the criticism. No other politician had been prepraed to go on the radio, coz they knew they would get savaged. Harriet is such a dope and desperate for exposure that she walked right into the trap.
Public humiliation coming up I hope.
Never had an original thought, can't grasp anyone else's either, permanently "on message".
I remember hearing her bleating on the today programme about how great it was to have achieved 75% success rate getting single mothers back into work.
It was pointed out to her that the target was to get 25,000 people onto the scheme, but in fact across the entire country only about a dozen people had shown up. Therefore 75% actually meant that the scheme had got 8 single mothers into work ... at a cost of 100k each. And no account had been taken that, in any case, they might have got a job without government assistance during that time.
The presenter asked her if the word "success" seemed out of place when all these facts were considered? Dear Harriet replied that 75% was pretty good. She really didn't seem to understand the criticism. No other politician had been prepraed to go on the radio, coz they knew they would get savaged. Harriet is such a dope and desperate for exposure that she walked right into the trap.
Public humiliation coming up I hope.
madcop said: In the area I work there are large Govt sponsored advertisments on the backs of Buses. They state
SPEEDING IS A CRIMINAL ACT, being late is not!
She obviously hasn't spent much time looking at the rear of buses as she would have seen the message!
Sadly she will not probably now be forced to use such a vehicle for these advertisments
When your face is the back end of a bus, you can't see whats written on it ........
Also..
John Prescott, the Deputy Prime Minister, has four speeding convictions, the last in 1997 when he drove at 80mph on a 30mph section of the icy M62 motorway. He said that he was going to a constituency surgery and did not want to keep people waiting in the cold.
Carzee
I find this amazing, that one of the most outspoken critics of the car in the UK and perhaps the wrost ever ex traffic minister, could have cocked up so badly on the driving front. No wonder he hates the motor car so much, it appears everytime he goes near one he gets a fine and 3 points. Perhaps he's going for some sort of record!
No - the matrices are the signs planted in the central reservation, about a foot squarem that are used to send inspiring messages like 'fog' or '50' or such like.. you know - the ones we all ignore and numpties use as an excuse to put their fog lights on for the next 4 months..
I found the original article from Sunday January 5, 1997, in the Times:
A quote in the Mirror from some stereotypical Humberside copper:
>> Edited by CarZee (moderator) on Thursday 9th January 21:02
I found the original article from Sunday January 5, 1997, in the Times:
seems it happened near Howden, East Yorkshire.
JOHN PRESCOTT, the Labour party's deputy leader, has been fined Pounds 40 after being caught speeding for the fourth time in eight years.
Prescott also had three penalty points endorsed on his licence after dashing along the ice-covered M62 motorway at 80mph on December 28 despite a police advisory limit of 30mph.
A Labour party spokesman confirmed the conviction and said Prescott did not want to be late for a constituency surgery.
A quote in the Mirror from some stereotypical Humberside copper:
Police spokesman said: "Even 40mph in those conditions is bloody mad."
>> Edited by CarZee (moderator) on Thursday 9th January 21:02
madcop said:
chimburt said: if prescott got done for 80 in a 30 why wasn't he banned?
Probably because it was an advisory matrix posted limit and not an enforcable one.
So if he had only been doing 70, the actual speed limit, he would have been OK? How are we supposed to know what signs are "advisory" ones? Someone once told me that temporary traffic lights are "only advisory". Presumably if they are placed by some navvy, nobody can say they are enforceable.
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