Pagid RS29 users
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Can any of you RS29 users confirm if you've ever found a metal pin in your pad when it seems the pad has some wear left from an inspection looking at the caliper?
the pin can be seen highlighted here:
It would seem that by the time you find the metal pin it has already started attacking the disks:
RS19s don't seem to have this pin in them as you can wear them right down? Anyone else seen this?
the pin can be seen highlighted here:
It would seem that by the time you find the metal pin it has already started attacking the disks:
RS19s don't seem to have this pin in them as you can wear them right down? Anyone else seen this?
m12_nathan said:
Can any of you RS29 users confirm if you've ever found a metal pin in your pad when it seems the pad has some wear left from an inspection looking at the caliper?
the pin can be seen highlighted here:
It would seem that by the time you find the metal pin it has already started attacking the disks:
RS19s don't seem to have this pin in them as you can wear them right down? Anyone else seen this?
I bloody hope this is not normal! I can't think what they would be there for.... Steve
I've ordered new pads and will be sending these off to Pagid via a supplier for investigations. Apparently the pin is to hold the pad material in place but no one else seems to have exposed the pin. The RS19s I have on the rear are much more worn with no such problems.
It is both sides of the car on the front though so not a single badly made pad.
It is both sides of the car on the front though so not a single badly made pad.
DanH said:
p.s. why are your callipers so digusting looking, did you buy them 10th hand from ebay?
Dan - just because you're a polishing queen...
I'd be interested to know whether these pins are present on all the pagid pads as I suspect they are going to be more prominent on the smaller sized pads (tho thats just a guess)
Keep us posted!!
Steve
Dunno where you get that idea from Steve, but at least my callipers don't look like veterans of the Iraq conflict 
Regarding the pins, I have seen similar on other pagids used on Elises. Alledgedly they were meant to be soft and not cause any damage to disks, although IIRC they in fact did... That is why I was curious how much material was left...
>> Edited by DanH on Monday 10th April 14:37
Regarding the pins, I have seen similar on other pagids used on Elises. Alledgedly they were meant to be soft and not cause any damage to disks, although IIRC they in fact did... That is why I was curious how much material was left...
>> Edited by DanH on Monday 10th April 14:37
DanH said:
How much pad material have you got left on there?
p.s. why are your callipers so digusting looking, did you buy them 10th hand from ebay?
They used to be black when they came out the box
You can see where I've jet washed them but the wheel has been in the way
I need a man to clean the car for me I'll measure the material when I swap them over but enough that the groove down the centre is still there, you can see in the first pic that there is still a decent amount left.
Merritt - My rear RS19s are much smaller and they are almost on the backing plates with no problems.
[quote=m12_nathan]
You can see where I've jet washed them but the wheel has been in the way I need a man to clean the car for me
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Nathan - bring it over and I'll clean it for you !! Some people play golf to relax, I detail !!! I'll even be gentle with her when I drop it back to you
You can see where I've jet washed them but the wheel has been in the way
I need a man to clean the car for me quote]
Nathan - bring it over and I'll clean it for you !! Some people play golf to relax, I detail !!! I'll even be gentle with her when I drop it back to you
henry-f said:
Just for a moment there it seemed from your post as though you were going to put those pads back on the car had it not have been for the famous pin. Shake that pin firmly by the hand as it probably saved your life chap !
Henry
Putting the pin issue to one side, it is hard to see from the pic how fat the pad is. Most of us check pad wear by having a squint with the wheel off and the damage to the pad would not be apparent (gulp). Hopefully the scoring and pitting on the disc would make most people investigate further and thus find the pad about to disintegrate. Looks to my untrained eye that the pad has seen some serious overheating. I wonder if they were bedded in according to the Pagid recommended method???
I have a set of blues that were given heavy work that shows similar cracking up, despite careful bedding. So I changed to yellow RS29's to cope with the additional heat.
I think I'll whip the pads out next time I have the wheels off!!
Lesson there to all users?
Oh, and you weren't really going to put them back were you??
[quote=m12_nathan
I'll measure the material when I swap them over but enough that the groove down the centre is still there, you can see in the first pic that there is still a decent amount left.
Merritt - My rear RS19s are much smaller and they are almost on the backing plates with no problems.[/quote]
Err... reading more seems to indicate that you were going to stuff them back
Another point - the less pad material left the greater the heat transfer and your more likely to see boiling fluid. Race pads might have a greater heat tolerance but not when there is only a wafer thin skin of pad left. I usually change the pads when they are 2/3rds worn, and keep the thinner pads for road use.
Having said that I have a bloody great pile of part worn pads cos I can't be bothered to swop them over for use on the road.....
I'll measure the material when I swap them over but enough that the groove down the centre is still there, you can see in the first pic that there is still a decent amount left.
Merritt - My rear RS19s are much smaller and they are almost on the backing plates with no problems.[/quote]
Err... reading more seems to indicate that you were going to stuff them back
Another point - the less pad material left the greater the heat transfer and your more likely to see boiling fluid. Race pads might have a greater heat tolerance but not when there is only a wafer thin skin of pad left. I usually change the pads when they are 2/3rds worn, and keep the thinner pads for road use.
Having said that I have a bloody great pile of part worn pads cos I can't be bothered to swop them over for use on the road.....
henry-f said:
Just for a moment there it seemed from your post as though you were going to put those pads back on the car had it not have been for the famous pin. Shake that pin firmly by the hand as it probably saved your life chap !
Henry
They're fine
From the outside they look like they have loads of wear left which is why I was suprised to find the pin. They were still braking well up to the point they started damaging the disks. Gfreeman - they were bedded in according to the instructions, but they did do 5-6 trackdays and a ring trip.
They look bolloxed to me. What part of breaking up and falling apart can`t you see.
5 trackdays and a trip to the ring is a lot of work if you`re braking hard. But it`s not down to how many trackdays you`ve done, it`s a case of looking at the actual pads and they are disintegrating.
Point yourself out to me if we`re ever on track together and I`ll give you a wide berth just in case bit`s start falling off or you suddenly veer off on a corner
Henry
5 trackdays and a trip to the ring is a lot of work if you`re braking hard. But it`s not down to how many trackdays you`ve done, it`s a case of looking at the actual pads and they are disintegrating.
Point yourself out to me if we`re ever on track together and I`ll give you a wide berth just in case bit`s start falling off or you suddenly veer off on a corner
Henry
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