HelpPlease - Do these tyres need replacing ?
HelpPlease - Do these tyres need replacing ?
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TVRwhoa

Original Poster:

349 posts

289 months

Monday 10th April 2006
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Hi everyone, could you cast your eyes over these pictures and let me know whether you
think they need replacing, they are front left and front right taken today;

Front left below;

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Front right below;

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It seems as though it is the inside edge which has worn away all of the tread as far as I can see, does this mean the tyre is illegal (it looks like to me) and why would it wear on the inside edge quite so badly ?

I am having a crap day,

1) I catch the side of the garage frame (again) whilst backing out and scrape the rear right wing.

2) I then catch the rear (right) tyre on the metal garage door stop which rips a huge tear in the rear wheel - cue now need a new rear tyre ! This has now been removed and lashed down the street.

3) Whilst manouevering to get out the way of a van parked partly across my drive, I catch the front splitter (air dam thingy) on the pavement and you've guessed it rip it partly off and attempt to bend it double.

Wahey how to damage your cerb in the space of thirty seconds, whilst jacking the car up so I can remove offending splitter is when I notice the state of the front tyres () - I was thinking of getting rid of the hated Bridgestones S-03's but not like this !

Sympathy needed please

gazzab

21,637 posts

311 months

Monday 10th April 2006
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Sorry to see you are having probs. It is only a car and only money. The tyres look shot to me.
Need you cambers sorted out.
HAve you 18's ?
Then check Toyos out on ebay (Leigh tyres) at £85 each.
Them S03s are nasty.

JR

14,332 posts

287 months

Monday 10th April 2006
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Border line on legality. You need to have tread over the full width but it would be a mean copper to book you. Is that just power steering or does the tracking need checking?

I guess that you won't have too many days like this one. It's all superficial and easy, if painful, to fix. At least you've still got a Cerb.

Toady1

1,622 posts

253 months

Monday 10th April 2006
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they are looking very worn on the inside mate, and the top one looks like it may be on the verge of geting to the wires! Id replace them and have your tracking/alignment checked too, or it will do the same to your new tyres quickly. They will wear on the inside more anyway due to the negative camber.

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Monday 10th April 2006
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Check for wear in the steering rack, your fronts are towing out by about 4-5 degrees. Have you noticed the car tramlining alot?

carl_w

10,739 posts

287 months

Monday 10th April 2006
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I'd be changing them if I were you. The top one looks like it's nearly down to the wear indicator. Furthermore, the lateral drainage channels have all gone: there's no way for the water in the centre channel to be squeegeed out to the edge of the tyre.

carl_w

10,739 posts

287 months

Monday 10th April 2006
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Extra 300 Driver said:
your fronts are towing out by about 4-5 degrees
How do you work that out? In the pictures it looks like they're toed out by at least 30 degrees, but I'm assuming that's because he's got the steering wheel turned for the photos

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Monday 10th April 2006
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carl_w said:
Extra 300 Driver said:
your fronts are towing out by about 4-5 degrees
How do you work that out? In the pictures it looks like they're toed out by at least 30 degrees, but I'm assuming that's because he's got the steering wheel turned for the photos


Because they have worn the same amount as mine did before I had the rack rebuilt!

TVRwhoa

Original Poster:

349 posts

289 months

Monday 10th April 2006
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Yeah tramlining has been a real problem, more often than not I have to avoid the 1st lane, as I struggle to keep the car straight !!

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Monday 10th April 2006
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TVRwhoa said:

Yeah tramlining has been a real problem, more often than not I have to avoid the 1st lane, as I struggle to keep the car straight !!


Then I suspect you have wear in one, or both of your track rods. The best thing you could do is get the rack overhauled at Power Steering Services in Greenwich for £150.

If you want to take the cheap route then just fit new track rods, can be done on the car but will need a geo check after.

robertjp

2,281 posts

254 months

Tuesday 11th April 2006
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How old are the front shocks? couldnt that cause toe out?

dean_ratpac

1,582 posts

307 months

Tuesday 11th April 2006
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robertjp said:
How old are the front shocks? couldnt that cause toe out?

the tires did this on mine, the cause shot shocks, get them checked.

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Tuesday 11th April 2006
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Has it sunk?

TVRWhoa

Original Poster:

349 posts

289 months

Wednesday 12th April 2006
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Cheers guys - set of four tyres (18" for Toyo T1-S £320 from ebay - wahoo.

Set of 18" wheel (spiders) from Torque RVT - Ian at Middlewich MOT (cheers Ian) so should be sporting new rubber very soon, Ian will aslo check alaignment, track rod ends and play in steering rack if needed, so all's well that ends well I suppose.

Toady1

1,622 posts

253 months

Thursday 13th April 2006
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thats a brilliant price for tyres!!!

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Thursday 13th April 2006
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Toady1 said:
thats a brilliant price for tyres!!!


Leigh Tyres, in Leigh on Sea Essex

gazzab

21,637 posts

311 months

Thursday 13th April 2006
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I have posted this leigh tyres info a few times...... I bought some and they were delivered next day. Dont forget that you get a multi tyre discount for delivery but you have to self calc it.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Thursday 13th April 2006
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Don't all Cerbs tend to do this to front tyres?

Mine certainly did it to a set of Toyo's on the front and the geometry was fine.

Ugh! Toyo's the tyres on the devil's chariot!

purpleheadedcerb

1,143 posts

251 months

Thursday 13th April 2006
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I've got a set of SO3 fronts (16" that came off mine with about 4000 miles on them. They are uniform across the width of the tyre.

To answer one of the original questions, 75% of the tyres tread must be above 1.6mm. I'd say you would be pushing to argue that they were legal considering the amount of wear on the inside. You are abviously aware of the 'wear indicators' on the tyre? They are the slightly raised bits of rubber between the tread. Once you are down to the indicators they need changing.

Scott

carl_w

10,739 posts

287 months

Thursday 13th April 2006
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purpleheadedcerb said:
To answer one of the original questions, 75% of the tyres tread must be above 1.6mm.
My understanding is that it's actually the centre 75%. So if you've worn the inside 25% below 1.6mm, it's replacement time.