Bus Lane Fine - transport for London
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Hi
New one for me - just received (10/1/03) a Penalty Charge Notice from Transport for London. Issue date 04/01/03 but postmarked received by my local sorting office 10/01/03.
Alleged contravention of being in a bus lane in Nightsbridge at 16.48 on (24th) Christmas eve. Doesn't say if I was stationary or moving.
I'm going to say it was someone else driving anyway - mate who lives abroad. But what's the deal with these tickets anyway ?
They give you an option to pay £40 within 14 days. No option to appeal at this stage. They then send you an enforcement notice for £80 which you can then appeal against/say it was someone else driving or ask for photo evidence it's £80 !!!
wnakers !!
New one for me - just received (10/1/03) a Penalty Charge Notice from Transport for London. Issue date 04/01/03 but postmarked received by my local sorting office 10/01/03.
Alleged contravention of being in a bus lane in Nightsbridge at 16.48 on (24th) Christmas eve. Doesn't say if I was stationary or moving.
I'm going to say it was someone else driving anyway - mate who lives abroad. But what's the deal with these tickets anyway ?
They give you an option to pay £40 within 14 days. No option to appeal at this stage. They then send you an enforcement notice for £80 which you can then appeal against/say it was someone else driving or ask for photo evidence it's £80 !!!
wnakers !!
Rich...God knows what I was doing at 16.48 on XMas eve !
Probably pulled over waiting for the g/f to come out of HArrods !!
My main point was that with speeding fines, they have 14 days to notify you and give you a chance to appeal. In this case it's been 17 days and no canace to appeal.
No way am I paying !!
Probably pulled over waiting for the g/f to come out of HArrods !!
My main point was that with speeding fines, they have 14 days to notify you and give you a chance to appeal. In this case it's been 17 days and no canace to appeal.
No way am I paying !!
So it's ok to block the bus lane and give the useless politicians an excuse to invent rubbish like Congestion Charging? Fair enough the persecution of drivers is rife but sitting in a bus lane in London doesn't just affect buses - the buses have to pull out into the normal traffic lane causing more congestion. So pay the £40.
ok fair enough if it was quiet then it sounds harsh - apologies for high horse-ishness - but it's not as if there are any points in it - and if you ring up and say you only just got the letter they might extend the 14 days.
Surely sitting outside Harrods in a flash car is a flagrant open invitation to the social scientists under red ken to try and get their own back on the bourgeoisie?
>> Edited by sadoksevoli on Friday 10th January 17:29
Surely sitting outside Harrods in a flash car is a flagrant open invitation to the social scientists under red ken to try and get their own back on the bourgeoisie?
>> Edited by sadoksevoli on Friday 10th January 17:29
no worries - might of not been in the 930 though(OK I was) but I would say it's more classic than flash!!
sadoksevoli said: ok fair enough if it was quiet then it sounds harsh - apologies for high horse-ishness - but it's not as if there are any points in it - and if you ring up and say you only just got the letter they might extend the 14 days.
Surely sitting outside Harrods in a flash car is a flagrant open invitation to the social scientists under red ken to try and get their own back on the bourgeoisie?
>> Edited by sadoksevoli on Friday 10th January 17:29
woof said: bloody hell - it was Xmas eve, the roads were empty - and I'm not even sure that it was a bus lane where I pulled over.
I'm sending it back anyway - it's over 14 days so yaboo sucks.
Not correct, the NIP was issued 4th January which is well within the 14 days. I'm afraid you are going to have to pay or contest.
woof said: ah - you might be right - it's from offence the alledged offence 24/12/02 - but the postmark on the envelope was the 10/1/03 ?
DOes this mean they only have to backdate all their NICS ??
In your original post you said the postmark was received date by your local office. You also received it on the 10th, did it get posted and received on the same day?
I am a bit out of touch with the UK postal system but now think you may be alright, if it was posted on the 10th then I think it is out of time as well (if it is a NIP).
I am sure Madcop could give you a definitive answer though!
Snap too - That's my daily route into work and I've been caught twice by that camera (doh!) As it was a fair cop I just paid up. I seem to remember some discussion a couple of months ago about the legal nature of the fine. It's not an NIP, just a fine, but I can't remember whether the 14 day rule applies.
woof said: buggers !! Where's the camera anyway ? I still don't bloody know where i was photo'd. I'm off to register my car in Nigeria - put an end to tickets !
It's on the pavement 3/4 of the way up the double bus lane towards Hyde Park Corner. If there's a bus parked up alongside it, it should be safe to blat past on a bike, but you might get trapped in a car.
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