Ashington crash - guilty plea...what sentence?
Ashington crash - guilty plea...what sentence?
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loaf

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850 posts

288 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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The scum who killed one little girl and seriously injured another has admitted causing death by dangerous driving; he also faces charges of TWOC, failure to stop at the scene of an accident and failure to report an accident.

Given that these days judges seem to be more inclined to administer a pat on the head and the 'poor lamb, comes from a broken home, can't blame him really' routine rather than 20 years hard labour,

a) what should be his sentence and
b) what do you think will he actually get? Discuss...

CB-Dave

1,002 posts

287 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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He'll probably sue the kid's parents for damaging the car, sue the owners of the car for having a car that he could break into and steal at just the wrong time for him to go crashing it (ie 5 mins earlier etc they'd not have been there) and he'll sue the police, media and anyone else for defamation more than likely.

He'll come out with a free holiday, mansion house and the keys to the city.

He should go down for 15-20 for the kid, with consecutives of 5yrs at least for nicking the car etc. Parole should be suspended until at least the murder and one of the consecutives is out, and he should be made to serve the sentence strung to the cell roof by his bollocks...

Gargamel

16,289 posts

288 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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I noticed a thread about this sentence cam up on the this is london chat room... basically the guardinistas were trying to say the pressure groups like the aa rac and abd were lobbying for lighter sentences for irresponisble drivers

As you can imagine that rather got me started ! Twoccing cars should warranty a community service first offence and jail for a second offence very simple

But the tarriff for these combined crimes and a tragic loss of life should be minimum five years (therfore a sentence of ten years)

aal responsible drivers especially abd etc want these guys severly dealt, otherwise honest people are punished by more restrictions and guys who don't give a toss get away !

flasher

9,310 posts

311 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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Well, He should get 10 years.

But he will get 10 hours community service and a £50 fine probably...

trackdemon

13,383 posts

288 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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Unless he was speeding, in which case they'll bring back hanging. Scumbag.

ghosty o''shark

184 posts

287 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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He had already spent a year inside after having killed someone else by reckless driving in 1991.

He has to be looking at a minimum of five years and a lifetime driving ban I would guess. I'd hope for something much much more severe though.


broccoli

254 posts

294 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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I just saw this on Sky - it is the second time he has killed someone - the first was a friend in a stolen car when he crashed and ran off leaving his 'mate' dead.

He has a conviction list of 49 offences and had just been out for 3 months from a 6 year sentence of which he did 3.

In my opinion he ought to get 25 years and have his hands chopped off.

apache

39,731 posts

311 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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He is going down for a min 10 years (surprisingly), he has 89 previous, his last crash killed his 15 year old mate, he ran away from this too. As Flash will testify, I am quite a moderate sort but I would volunteer to slot this waste of fresh air, why did it take all this pain and misery before something was done?

rich-uk

1,431 posts

283 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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I was going to write a cynical and sarcastic answer to this, but I see you've all beaten me to it

Unfortunatley, if he get's 10 years or more, it'll be a miracle. If he just walked up to her and battered her to death, would people still think the same? He'd get life or be carted off to the nut house.

Graham

16,380 posts

311 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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lets just hope he's not a poet FFS

pies

13,116 posts

283 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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the best sentence i could come up with is lock him in traitors gate at low tied.........come back next low tide and collect the remains,a nice slow death

deltaf

1,384 posts

284 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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Why should Twoccers only get a community sentence then Gargamel?
Isnt having your car stolen then torched a serious thing anymore or sommat?
Out in the wild wild west of years ago, steal a horse and its a hanging offence.
If scum who steal cars arent dealt with harshly(very) the first time, then whats the incentive to stay out of trouble?
There is none!
Car theives should automatically lose a finger on a first offence.
I think that would kinda concentrate their puny minds.
All this nonsense about community service and probation is bollox.
Its been tried and dosent work, so scrap it and get medeavil on their asses.
Second offence for theft they should lose a hand, sounds harsh dont it?
But id bet the crime rate would drop overnight by 95% if thats what they KNEW WOULD happen to em, if it was me, id not risk it.
Call me uncivilised, call me wicked even for not supporting the "poor little boy", why should I?..hes a scumbag, content only to help himself to others hard earned possesions, and if someone gets in the way, they can have a beating too...
Thats the kind of mindset these turds have, no consideration, compassion and no remorse for what they do to their victims.
Car theft IS NOT A MINOR CRIME. Its serious and should be treated as such.

andymadmak

15,523 posts

297 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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Deltaf, I though you had "left the PH fold"
Did I imagine it or have you decided to stay with us?
Either way, much reeeeespeck for the comments.
Andy 400se

dennisthemenace

15,605 posts

295 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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Too bloody right deltaf (good to see you have returned), cut their fcuking hands off and lets start with this prat also take off his nads so he cant breed anymore pondlife

yertis

19,675 posts

293 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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I'm surprised you're all being so lenient...

I wouldn't be. Retribution has it's own rewards.

ABBTVR

69,336 posts

285 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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SPOT ON Deltaf!
Welcome back.
Get some respect for that statement!

Big Al.

rich-uk

1,431 posts

283 months

Friday 10th January 2003
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Spot on deltaf, it seems like you can get away with almost anything these days.

AlanN

246 posts

283 months

Saturday 11th January 2003
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You can get away with anything these days *except* the sort of thing Deltaf has said.
I hope the PC brigade don't find you brother, 'cos you'll get life y'know :-(

Alan

>> Edited by AlanN on Saturday 11th January 01:37

dicky

928 posts

311 months

Saturday 11th January 2003
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News said he would get 10 years, but I feel like the rest on here it will be less.
He is now a double murderer, doesn't that mean anything nowadays.That poor family has to try and move on, and the little girl who is 18 ish months old is still in a critical condition.
These arseholes p@@s me off, they nick your motor, and more often they torch it when finished with it.
This guy was baned for life, fat load of good that did.
Just hope Lord Irvine is not the judge...............
or he'll be planting flowers somewhere outside an old peoples place for his harsh punishment.

anonymous-user

81 months

Saturday 11th January 2003
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This guy serves no purpose to decent society and should either be locked up for life or

The reality is that he will probably get a 10 stretch and be out after 5.

Anyone who kills someone in a stolen car or during the execution of a crime should be charged with murder.