111R and Exige(yota) SC up to 304ps play with powerrr

[GTRene]

When I looked at the German website of RED motorsport, I saw lots for me new info, and maybe for some very interesting news...304ps does that sound anough? well it seems to be possible according to RED and seeing them on the Nurnburgring I have a good feeling about them, they also tested it under racing conditions and they say its very reliable even then its almost like a serialcar and it has much nice elastic torque? also in the low revs anyway it sounds good! and if you already have the yota in your car you have a fine combo wich rockets to 62(100km) under 4 sec(good anough for me)
here is their thread, its in German...but we can read figurs

www.red-motorsport.de/html/body_toyota.html

also lots of pictures and other info and wheels and parts, maybe their is something for you under this link: www.red-motorsport.de/html/schnappchen.html

www.red-motorsport.de/html/toyota.html

GTRene

[Phil-CH]

From what I hear, the 304PS is also from Bemani Switzerland and includes various modifications to the Toyota engine itself. It should also cost a bit more than the stated 12'900 €. It's also not exactly road legal (at least here in Switzerland and is only for track-usage).

Cheers Phil

>> Edited by Phil-CH on Thursday 20th April 11:09

[GTRene]

Phil-CH said:

From what I hear, the 304PS is also from Bemani Switzerland and includes various modifications to the Toyota engine itself. It should also cost a bit more than the stated 12'900 €. It's also not exactly road legal (at least here in Switzerland and is only for track-usage). Cheers Phil >> Edited by Phil-CH on Thursday 20th April 11:09

guess they are talking then about their 2006 Cup car wich also was stated at 300+hp... when I see them on Assen I try and ask them..and make some pictures if I have the chance to do so.
But I also remembered on that day they drove what I believe was a street legal exhaust on that 300+ car...but indeed maybe the price is for the 270hp version? but I hope its for a complete package 300hp all in...then it realy become tempting
cheers
GTRene

[Phil-CH]

I spoke to Bemani this morning and apparently, it is not a package kind of deal. Prices for a 300+ PS version will cost around 30'000 CHF (roughly ~18'700 Euros). From what I gather, Red Motorsport ordered this "upgrade" from Bemani for track usage. The other accessories Bemani sells (Sports-Exhaust, Sports-Cat.) are not street-legal either (the Exhaust), at least here in Switzerland. I'm not sure what the situation is like in Germany and EU regulations, but at the moment, I'm assuming the same applies there too (which has me kinda confused why Red is offering this on their site). In anycase, the upgrade from 265 PS to 300+ PS is quite a costly one because they need to remove the engine and tune various parts of it.

The price of 12'700 Euros is most definately only for the Supercharger as it would more or less be equal to the asking price listed on the Bemani website plus some additional transportation costs from Germany to Switzerland and back.

Cheers Phil

[theo111r]

As far as I know from Martin Roos (aka Red Motorsport), the 300+ hp conversion costs double the Bemani price! (ca 26.000€

It's a complete engine workout, and not a simply bolt-on solution, hence the hefty mark-up!

However the upgrade is not the 40 additional horsepower alone but mainly the extra 100Nm of torque it adds to the 250Nm of the Bemani S/C mod. All in all, 306PS & 350Nm is serious power for an Elise chassis, no matter that it's quite heavier than the S1 Honda-Duratec-Audi powered solution already offered in the UK.

As Martin told me, they used to catch the 996GT3 Cups in the corners, but with this recent upgrade they can outrun them in the straights too!

26k euros is serious money for the engine alone, but if you consider that you can get an almost road-legal GT3 Elise/Exige with less than 100k euros (car plus engine mod, plus other necessary upgrades), and blow some serious contenders off the track and the road too, then you may change your mind

Up to now, I haven't heard of any blown Bemani engine, which possibly proves the watercooled S/C kit to be a valuable and viable upgrade. As far as what is capable of, there are some pretty good videos from an ex-Speedster owner who got a Krypton Green Bemani Exige and kicks some GT3 and Vantage butts!

Cheers,

Theo

[GTRene]

good write up and research Theo, sounds fantastic 350nm in such car and ofcors 305horses to back them up
Only those 26.000,-euro's thats a lot for most people you buy a nice 111R for it or a fine Elise/honda.
So I see it this way, when you already have a good 111R or Exige and you want to keep the "origenal" yota powerrrr in it but with more horses for corses, and you have some more money n your pocket you make yourself such 350nm power rocket...
For most others(like me) with not that much money to spend and or have a "standard"Elise they go for the Honda conversion or by a complete second hand honda converted Elise for that money.
I like to see a complete list with what you get and what they do for that "26.000"euro must be some list? or a lot of engeneering time( guess a special clutch and flywheel are included in that list)
Thanks
GTRene