Tamora over cayman s ???
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the Tamora is a hand built small volume car ....Porsche make more in a day than TVR do in a year ....you will always get 'niggles' in a hand built car - dosent matter whether its Ferrari, Lotus, TVR, Aston Martin etc ...they all have problems.
So I guess it depends on what you call 'reliable' - does it start every day etc or does it never have to go to the garage in between 20K mile oil changes.
No-one here can guarantee a 2004 Tamora will be 100% 'reliable' ...personally Id go and drive both cars and whichever one really lights your fire and makes you want to buy it then go for it - worry about the rest later....if reliability is the prime factor in this decision then youd really be looking at a Lexus ...its a sportscar after all
So I guess it depends on what you call 'reliable' - does it start every day etc or does it never have to go to the garage in between 20K mile oil changes.
No-one here can guarantee a 2004 Tamora will be 100% 'reliable' ...personally Id go and drive both cars and whichever one really lights your fire and makes you want to buy it then go for it - worry about the rest later....if reliability is the prime factor in this decision then youd really be looking at a Lexus ...its a sportscar after all
DJC said:
Er one is a coupe and the other a roadster? Pretty different cars there I think!
He's right you know!
I guess the fact you've got a GT model S2000 indicates you like your hard top option - how important is topless action for you?
If you prefer a coupe, get a T350. As a former S2000 owner myself, I wanted to stick with a roadster, and in terms of performance and exclusivity, the Tam has been a suitably large step on from the S2000. There are now quite a few ex-S2000 Tam or T350 owners, and I don't think any of them are disappointed.
You would initially find the targa roof system annoying after the convenience of the S2's very quick electric roof, but I am sure you will prefer the huge grunt and great noise of the Speed 6 engine - very different to the revvy Honda screamer.
The interior is also a much more special place to be, and it's surprisingly practical, considering it is shorter than the Honda - large shelf behind seats that you can fit stuff on, and a reasonable boot.
For peace of mind you need to buy a car with a warranty, or get a suitable one yourself.
Boxster S is a better competitor for Tamora, whereas Sagaris is the natural rival of the Cayman S.
In both cases you exchange tested to death engineering (porsche) wow factor, for nose-bleed acceleration, 'sense of occasion' and imo a greater level of driving enjoyment from Blackpool.
A Porsche is a car you'll like and admire. The TVR is a car you'll love to pieces and (if it falls to pieces) even hate at times but if you've got petrol flowing through your veins you'll never have had so much fun in your life! Try one out, they are uniquely big hearted, thanks to the magnificent Speed 6 - a mighty war hammer to Porsche's rapier blade flat 6 (which you'll never see because they're hidden from all but the mechanics eyes). The controls, pedals and gearbox are very race inspired and a delight to use, and with the very british if rather eccentric multi function instruments, you never lose the feeling that you're in something special. The TVR is definitely further away from your S2000 than the TVR which is a car from another planet and another time. A throwback to the pre-electronic, pure driving pleasure of yesteryear with modern grip, brakes and driving dynamics. For me it's a heady cocktail, despite it's pretty appearance the Tamora is a wild raging, roaring beast of a thing, but considering the huge grunt is better mannered than an S2000.
The great thing about TVR is their audacity. I'd always dreamed Honda would put the NSX engine in the S2000. I don't know why but somehow they just never would. Consider this - that car would have had 276bhp with call it 1300kg (for the heavier engine) to haul around. Power to weight: a healthy 212 per ton.
TVR Tamora has 350bhp for 1060kg! Call it 1100 for the sake of inaccuracy and you get 318 per ton. And that's comparing a real TVR with a fantasy car!
What other manufacturers dream of, TVR dares to stick number plates on! Gawd bless 'em! Long may they do so!
In both cases you exchange tested to death engineering (porsche) wow factor, for nose-bleed acceleration, 'sense of occasion' and imo a greater level of driving enjoyment from Blackpool.
A Porsche is a car you'll like and admire. The TVR is a car you'll love to pieces and (if it falls to pieces) even hate at times but if you've got petrol flowing through your veins you'll never have had so much fun in your life! Try one out, they are uniquely big hearted, thanks to the magnificent Speed 6 - a mighty war hammer to Porsche's rapier blade flat 6 (which you'll never see because they're hidden from all but the mechanics eyes). The controls, pedals and gearbox are very race inspired and a delight to use, and with the very british if rather eccentric multi function instruments, you never lose the feeling that you're in something special. The TVR is definitely further away from your S2000 than the TVR which is a car from another planet and another time. A throwback to the pre-electronic, pure driving pleasure of yesteryear with modern grip, brakes and driving dynamics. For me it's a heady cocktail, despite it's pretty appearance the Tamora is a wild raging, roaring beast of a thing, but considering the huge grunt is better mannered than an S2000.
The great thing about TVR is their audacity. I'd always dreamed Honda would put the NSX engine in the S2000. I don't know why but somehow they just never would. Consider this - that car would have had 276bhp with call it 1300kg (for the heavier engine) to haul around. Power to weight: a healthy 212 per ton.
TVR Tamora has 350bhp for 1060kg! Call it 1100 for the sake of inaccuracy and you get 318 per ton. And that's comparing a real TVR with a fantasy car!
What other manufacturers dream of, TVR dares to stick number plates on! Gawd bless 'em! Long may they do so!
There can be no guarantees that any car you buy will be 100% reliable. Talk to both Porsche and TVR owners and you'll hear from both sides that some people have minimimal problems/niggles and other have major problems.
Don't base your decision on heresay and conjecture - talk to as many owners as you can, drive them both, get to know the cars and then you'll know which one is right for you.
Don't base your decision on heresay and conjecture - talk to as many owners as you can, drive them both, get to know the cars and then you'll know which one is right for you.
IMHO - You'll hate owning a TVR if you expect 100% reliability. I hated my first TVR (kept it 8 months (a 1998 cerbera)) but now I've eventaully bought a T350 I'm much happier. Partly 'cos they are now (please god still will be) better built and (I suspect mostly) now I have much more realistic expectations.
Being a TVR owner is (almost) a way of life, anybody (who's rich enough) can buy a Porsche. I think that's why TVRs don't get the same 'w*nker' response that Porsches seem to.
Yer pays yer money....
Being a TVR owner is (almost) a way of life, anybody (who's rich enough) can buy a Porsche. I think that's why TVRs don't get the same 'w*nker' response that Porsches seem to.
Yer pays yer money....
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