FIA decides on Friday on who'll be the 12th F1 team for 2008
FIA decides on Friday on who'll be the 12th F1 team for 2008
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FourWheelDrift

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Tuesday 25th April 2006
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Early money in the last 2 weeks has been on Prodrive but rumours suggest that the McLaren B team headed up by Jean Alesi and sponsored by the Direxiv Japanese sports goods manufacturer might have nosed ahead.

Still it's all just speculation, the winner will be the one who gives the FIA the biggest and most expensive present.

Trackside

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Tuesday 25th April 2006
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FourWheelDrift said:
Still it's all just speculation, the winner will be the one who gives the FIA the biggest and most expensive present.
Sadly, that will probably be the case...

flemke

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Tuesday 25th April 2006
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FourWheelDrift said:
Still it's all just speculation, the winner will be the one who gives the FIA the biggest and most expensive present.
The most likely form of that gift will be slavish subordination to the FIA in perpetuity.
That's why a nod to anything like a McLaren "B" team seems a long shot, irrespective of the qualifications of such a team.

kevin ritson

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Tuesday 25th April 2006
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Why more than 12 teams is so dreadful, goodness knows. A pre-qualifying session on Saturday mornings would give the spectators something else to watch.

SamHH

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Tuesday 25th April 2006
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kevin ritson said:
Why more than 12 teams is so dreadful, goodness knows. A pre-qualifying session on Saturday mornings would give the spectators something else to watch.


I don't know much about the economics of motor racing, but I can't imagine it would be viable for a team to invest the sort of money required to compete in F1 but not be guaranteed the ability to go racing.

kevin ritson

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Tuesday 25th April 2006
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SamHH said:
kevin ritson said:
Why more than 12 teams is so dreadful, goodness knows. A pre-qualifying session on Saturday mornings would give the spectators something else to watch.


I don't know much about the economics of motor racing, but I can't imagine it would be viable for a team to invest the sort of money required to compete in F1 but not be guaranteed the ability to go racing.


I dunno, Super Aguri and Midland seem to think so

racefan_uk

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Tuesday 25th April 2006
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SamHH said:
kevin ritson said:
Why more than 12 teams is so dreadful, goodness knows. A pre-qualifying session on Saturday mornings would give the spectators something else to watch.


I don't know much about the economics of motor racing, but I can't imagine it would be viable for a team to invest the sort of money required to compete in F1 but not be guaranteed the ability to go racing.


Strange, they used to, not that long ago. It was part of the game and they accepted it. It also increased competition further down the grid.

Does anyone really thing the Super Aguri cars are getting ANY development this year?

FourWheelDrift

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Tuesday 25th April 2006
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No, but they are introducing their own car mid-season, the SA06 chassis though has been delayed until Silverstone.....probably. No point in doing too much to the old Arrows.

SamHH

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Wednesday 26th April 2006
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racefan_uk said:
kevin ritson said:

I don't know much about the economics of motor racing, but I can't imagine it would be viable for a team to invest the sort of money required to compete in F1 but not be guaranteed the ability to go racing.


Strange, they used to, not that long ago. It was part of the game and they accepted it. It also increased competition further down the grid.

Does anyone really thing the Super Aguri cars are getting ANY development this year?


Like I said, I don't know much about the economics of motor sport: I could be wrong. I just find it unlikely that a team would be able to spend many millions of pounds (including the £25m FIA bond) on setting up, yet know that it could be going home on a Friday evening after failing to pre-qualify.

BTW, Super Aguri have already been developing their car and are planning to introduce a new chassis some time this year. See:

www.formula1.com/insight/technical_analysis/race/2006/751/250.html
www.formula1.com/insight/technical_analysis/race/2006/753/261.html


>> Edited by SamHH on Wednesday 26th April 11:27

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 26th April 2006
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1991 - 17 teams vying for grid slots.

flemke

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Wednesday 26th April 2006
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SamHH said:
(including the £25m FIA bond)
Starting in '08, the bond will no longer be required.

SamHH

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Wednesday 26th April 2006
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flemke said:
SamHH said:
(including the £25m FIA bond)
Starting in '08, the bond will no longer be required.


Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks.

racefan_uk

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Wednesday 26th April 2006
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flemke said:
SamHH said:
(including the £25m FIA bond)
Starting in '08, the bond will no longer be required.


Yes, strange that, since Bernie sold his stake that little token gesture is no longer required...

Gruffy

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Wednesday 26th April 2006
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Eric Mc said:
1991 - 17 teams vying for grid slots.
I'm pretty sure the budgets have, relative to inflation, sky-rocketed since '91.

flemke

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Wednesday 26th April 2006
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SamHH said:
flemke said:
SamHH said:
(including the £25m FIA bond)
Starting in '08, the bond will no longer be required.


Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks.
It's part of Max's plan to bring more independents into the sport.

Let's see...a group of global, multi-billion-dollar carmakers, or a group of independents who must participate continually in motorsport in order to survive: I wonder which group is easier for the regulator to bully and keep under its control?

jonnylayze

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Friday 28th April 2006
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On the FIA website, its said they had about 22teams up for it I think??

kevin ritson

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Friday 28th April 2006
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According to Autosport's website, Direxiv have had their application rejected, Crash say that Stoddart's has also been turned down (both nothing to do with politics, I'm sure...)

So looks good for Prodrive...

Eric Mc

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Friday 28th April 2006
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Prodrive gets it. Just announced.

FourWheelDrift

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Friday 28th April 2006
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I wonder if that'll tempt Subaru to enter as an engine supplier later as it's probably too early for 2008 (or put their name to an engine)?

D_Mike

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Friday 28th April 2006
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It's a shame the engine regs are so tight, imagine an F1 version of the engine from the impreza. I bet that'd sound pretty cool.