counter/active steering
counter/active steering
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phillvr6

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3,785 posts

283 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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Wow, been reading the latest issue of ride, specifically the article on active steering. Yesterday I needed to take a trip down the A3 from Guildford to Waterlooville so decided to put the theory in to practice.

Well, the road was wide and empty so I took the bull by the horns and turned the bars the opposite way to which I wanted go.Sure enough the bike leant itself over and went exactly where I wanted it to.

From that point I started to deliberately counter steer for every change of direction from overtaking, to long sweeping bends, to sharp bends. All I can say is what a revelation, by the time I got back to Guildford I was doing it without thinking (although it did take some convincing myself to steer towards the concrete barrier in the centre of the A3 just before Guildford).

By the time I got home, my cornering was more accurate and more confident, plus my chicken strips are getting thinner.

So if you haven't tried it, or don't do it regually, give it a go.

Thanks,

Phill

r5gttgaz

7,897 posts

243 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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You have to do it or you wont go round corners, however now you realise and can increase the input your cornering will improve no end.

shot2bits

1,273 posts

251 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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I read this article and had to read it again because how else do you go around corners?? I'm no pro but you have to counter steer at speed to lean the bike and go around corners! It's just that the article made it sound like there was another way of steering other than counter steering - I wondered how else you could get a bike to corner?

It was a good article though and has made me much more confident with my steering - push harder and quicker than I used to

Rob.

phillvr6

Original Poster:

3,785 posts

283 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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I think previously I just went around corners but never actually thought about how I was doing it. Now I realise how I am doing it I can make use of that and improve.

Phill

Scott W

572 posts

266 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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Also, consider making sure your elbows are in line with the handle bars (or as best as you can) as this will increase the effect of counter steering tremendously.

I thought I was doing it correctly for years, but spending a day doing the California Superbike School soon showed me I wasn't, and by having straighter/more upright arms my pushing on the bars was just having no real effect whatsoever.

slim_boy_fat

735 posts

262 months

Friday 28th April 2006
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It’s good to see the penny drop for people, especially on a motorbike.

Steer bike, turn bars. Mmmmmm doughnuts (said in best Homer Simpson style)


catso

15,850 posts

290 months

Saturday 29th April 2006
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phillvr6 said:

From that point I started to deliberately counter steer for every change of direction from overtaking


Phill


Just wondering how you've been steering up to now...........

phillvr6

Original Poster:

3,785 posts

283 months

Saturday 29th April 2006
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catso said:
phillvr6 said:

From that point I started to deliberately counter steer for every change of direction from overtaking


Phill


Just wondering how you've been steering up to now...........


As I think I said earlier, I had just been doing ti without really thinking what I was doing.

shot2bits

1,273 posts

251 months

Monday 1st May 2006
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phillvr6 said:
catso said:
phillvr6 said:

From that point I started to deliberately counter steer for every change of direction from overtaking


Phill


Just wondering how you've been steering up to now...........


As I think I said earlier, I had just been doing ti without really thinking what I was doing.


Yeah, counter steering isn't obvious is it - considering you only push 5mm to lean the bike by 40o... In everday riding the input to the bars would be tiny so I do understand what you're saying. The article gave me the confidence to push harder and faster...