thinking of emmigrating..
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all this crap about speed cameras is one of the reasons.. that and all the other ridiculous beaurocratic rubbish that goes on in this country..
apparently they have abolished speed cameras in Canada, because everybody just hated the police.. and now the accidents have been reduced..
anybody know anything about immigrating over there?!?!
Piers
apparently they have abolished speed cameras in Canada, because everybody just hated the police.. and now the accidents have been reduced..
anybody know anything about immigrating over there?!?!
Piers
I've just got back from 2 weeks in Whistler (third time I've been in Canada on holiday in 20 months) and I'm seriously not enjoying being back in England. If I weren't married I'd be seriously thinking of disappearing for a few years - mountain patrol in the winter, greenlaning/shooting organiser in the summer sounds extremely appealing.
Great Idea guys! I can heartily vouch for Canada 
Although the mountain patrol isn't too easy, lots of people want to do it for the big resorts, it's a few year wait to get on. Don't despair though, some (Whister, I believe) use professional patrol, so you'd get paid as well!!!
That would be a damn good job.
If you come over, bring the Tiv, and I'll travel out there to go for a ride
For the immigration stuff go to
www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.html
If you're useful, you won't have trouble getting in. Getting a good job could be a different matter.
edited to add useful link and info.
Gary
>> Edited by gary_tholl on Wednesday 15th January 16:54
Although the mountain patrol isn't too easy, lots of people want to do it for the big resorts, it's a few year wait to get on. Don't despair though, some (Whister, I believe) use professional patrol, so you'd get paid as well!!!
That would be a damn good job.
If you come over, bring the Tiv, and I'll travel out there to go for a ride
For the immigration stuff go to
www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.html
If you're useful, you won't have trouble getting in. Getting a good job could be a different matter.
edited to add useful link and info.
Gary
>> Edited by gary_tholl on Wednesday 15th January 16:54
gary_tholl said: Although the mountain patrol isn't too easy, lots of people want to do it for the big resorts, it's a few year wait to get on. Don't despair though, some (Whister, I believe) use professional patrol, so you'd get paid as well!!!
Even for ski patrol? I didn't think it would be that popular. And while I can ski down nearly anything, I know nothing about climbing/first aid/avalanche and snow management, so I'd have to be training for at least a year before having a shot at a proper job unless they take trainees.
I don't think Canadian immigration would be that impressed with my credentials, though - 10 years in the City doing very specialised finance isn't likely to appeal to them.
alan_driver said: I dont blame you! Quite like the look of Australia, never been any PH'ers from there? What are the roads like?
Oh yes there is
I live on the Gold Coast and we have the best roads in Oz with an 8 lane road from the Coast to Brisbane (80kms) but 3-4 speed vans tour up and down plus bikes and HWP
Of course you only need to go 10-20kms inland and there are no cops so you can fly (this is where all the tourists kill themselves
) The roads are deadly for LOW cars (like sports cars) away from the main drag but stil in good repair. The speed rules are getting so draconian that come public hols at Xmas and Easter nobody wants to drive on the roads as they have double penalties for these periods (double the points lost and double the fines
= double the fun...NOT!!) Still, we have the Northern Territory where there are NO speed limits and the roads are quite good but there are large distances between towns (2-300kms) so you need to know how much fuel is in the tank before you leave town
Sydney, NSW is now so governed by speed cameras that you would hate it as your license will be gone in a month, VIC is just as bad if not worse , sorry to spoil any ideas of freedom but they're the facts as of now.
I've got recidency for NZ now and am thinking of quiting the UK.We have interests in NZ(business of trees)so it would'nt be a big deal really.Like most PHers i too am fed up to the back teeth with what was once a fantastic place to live,turned in to what it now is.
I'd rather be an immigrant and second class citizen in NZ than the UK.Yes,there are pros and cons all over the world but having lived UK for most of my life the Ms and i feel its time to change....wether for the better who knows,but it won't be any worse.Change is good!I hope i can recomend it.
cheers PMG
I'd rather be an immigrant and second class citizen in NZ than the UK.Yes,there are pros and cons all over the world but having lived UK for most of my life the Ms and i feel its time to change....wether for the better who knows,but it won't be any worse.Change is good!I hope i can recomend it.
cheers PMG
all this crap about speed cameras is one of the reasons.. that and all the other ridiculous beaurocratic rubbish that goes on in this country..
apparently they have abolished speed cameras in Canada, because everybody just hated the police.. and now the accidents have been reduced..
anybody know anything about immigrating over there?!?!
Piers
Piers, the reason for the removal was that the Mounties lost so much respect, they themselves with the help of free canadians pushed to get them removed, and did!
Emigrating to Canada, as a new-born canadian (!) you'll have to either have a qualification for a job which no-one has in Canada, or be a doctor or dentist, or have a cool 1/4 million canadian which you're going to invest in your company to be founded in CDN and employing x amount of people. The exact amounts depend on the area you're going to.... e.g. New Brunswick has different conditions then Nova Scotia. If you're REALLY interested you'll find that the CDN authorities
IN CANADA are most helpful. Outside Canada they tend to block more!!! after my experience of brussels!
DON'T think you're going to get away from burocrats or from restictive speed controls, you're not! the difference is a mountie will still smile while slapping a fine on you.... but they're few and far between out in the sticks. I've done Edmonton-Calgary in 95 minutes tearing the arse out of it to catch a plane!
and you'll find the canadians are a damn sight more polite and MUCH better (more broadly) educated than the you-alls.....
Hi pierscoe, just a word of advice: be careful what you wish for. I think the grass is always greener, and lots of Brits would tend to agree in these uncertain (and let's face it, miserable) times.
What with public sector strikes, Victorian transport infrastructure, congested roads with draconian and heavily enforced limits, a failing health service, a decline of town centres into yobbishness and hooliganism, a general culture of envy where material success is discouraged, miserable weather and sports teams that take a hammering from the rest of the world, there's not a lot to cheer us up.
After eight intensely tiring years in the City, I left the UK to work in Dubai and have been here almost a year and a half. Whilst the general lifestyle is many times more pleasant than living in the UK (not least of which is the access to much cheaper fast cars and fast roads without the worry of car crime and car envy), it has to be said that I miss British institutions. Things I miss include the Times editorial and Jeremy Paxman, Richie Benaud (OK maybe not a Brit but he's still an institution) and John Motson, decent bookstores and specialist shops (ever tried getting Wonder Wheels and Evo magazine in Dubai?!), and most of all, a Sunday thrash through the rural lanes of Surrey on a crisp winter morning. Can't beat it.
Cars and driving mean a lot to me, as they do to everyone on this forum. Whilst we moan about the congestion on our roads, and the freedoms being eroded day by day, there are bright pockets to be found. I am hoping that when I come back the public transport system will have sorted itself out (some hope!) and more people will have been encouraged to move from hulking SUVs on the school run to buses and trains, leaving the rest of us true enthusiasts more freedom to enjoy the roads.
No doubt Canadians have a better quality of life than the Brits, and no doubt you will be able to find great driving roads outside the cities, but at least in the UK, we don't have to travel very far to get our kicks on track days and mountain roads. Even in the South East we are only a couple of hours from Wales or the West Country, and within easy reach of the continent. We should count ourselves lucky perhaps.
What with public sector strikes, Victorian transport infrastructure, congested roads with draconian and heavily enforced limits, a failing health service, a decline of town centres into yobbishness and hooliganism, a general culture of envy where material success is discouraged, miserable weather and sports teams that take a hammering from the rest of the world, there's not a lot to cheer us up.
After eight intensely tiring years in the City, I left the UK to work in Dubai and have been here almost a year and a half. Whilst the general lifestyle is many times more pleasant than living in the UK (not least of which is the access to much cheaper fast cars and fast roads without the worry of car crime and car envy), it has to be said that I miss British institutions. Things I miss include the Times editorial and Jeremy Paxman, Richie Benaud (OK maybe not a Brit but he's still an institution) and John Motson, decent bookstores and specialist shops (ever tried getting Wonder Wheels and Evo magazine in Dubai?!), and most of all, a Sunday thrash through the rural lanes of Surrey on a crisp winter morning. Can't beat it.
Cars and driving mean a lot to me, as they do to everyone on this forum. Whilst we moan about the congestion on our roads, and the freedoms being eroded day by day, there are bright pockets to be found. I am hoping that when I come back the public transport system will have sorted itself out (some hope!) and more people will have been encouraged to move from hulking SUVs on the school run to buses and trains, leaving the rest of us true enthusiasts more freedom to enjoy the roads.
No doubt Canadians have a better quality of life than the Brits, and no doubt you will be able to find great driving roads outside the cities, but at least in the UK, we don't have to travel very far to get our kicks on track days and mountain roads. Even in the South East we are only a couple of hours from Wales or the West Country, and within easy reach of the continent. We should count ourselves lucky perhaps.
On the link above that Gary kindly posted there is a Canadian Immigration points test if you should be interested. Asks you questions and then gives you a score, if its over 70 you are eligible.
Seems they welcome IT consultants in with open arms. I did it and came up with over the pass mark so now I all I need to do is find a job and I'm off!
Matt.
Seems they welcome IT consultants in with open arms. I did it and came up with over the pass mark so now I all I need to do is find a job and I'm off!
Matt.
Wow.. thanks for all the great response guys!!
>"America without the Americans"
we were saying precisely that over dinner last night!! took the words right out of my mouth :-)
thanks for all the info/advice etc... I'm off to do the points thing now...
anyone know much about getting a job in a foreign country??
Also, do they have decent cars in canada? presume all the yank-tanks, but maybe the import scene too, so an RX7 or something like that might be good :-)
Piers.
>"America without the Americans"
we were saying precisely that over dinner last night!! took the words right out of my mouth :-)
thanks for all the info/advice etc... I'm off to do the points thing now...
anyone know much about getting a job in a foreign country??
Also, do they have decent cars in canada? presume all the yank-tanks, but maybe the import scene too, so an RX7 or something like that might be good :-)
Piers.
Wow, I'm kinda surprised by the response this got.
It's funny, cause I've been thinking that the UK would be my next (hopeful) home/work for a few years. I absolutely love Canada, but if you think you guys are getting Americanized, it is alot worse here.
One thing that you may not realize, if you've never been here, is just how friggin' big it is. The closest city to me is 300km, and it isn't really any bigger/better than where I am. The closest 'fun' city is 800km, I drive there quite regularly to go skiing in the mountains.
The speed laws here aren't too bad, I've had 3 speeding tickets in 9 years (wow, 9 years already, how time flies) and my insurance/registration has never gone up from them. Like you guys said, no scameras, they tried them in a couple of provinces, and damn near got wiped out over it, didn't last long, one summer here as I recall. They never even got to mount permanent ones, just the mobile ones got them in hot water.
Cars, unfortunately, are not our strong suit. Over here there are not many exotics. I've seen 2 Ferraris, 1 Diablo, 2 Esprits, in my ENTIRE life. Most people think a BMW is a sports car. sigh. Gas is relatively cheap ~40-70 cents/litre (0.20 - 0.30 pounds/litre, is that 20-30 pence?? sorry) Very few people have heard of Lotus, let alone TVR.
As for ski patrol, yeah lots of people lined up for it. I started last winter, thinking I'd be able to ski free at some of the mountains. Not a chance. Actually seeing some of the dumbasses they have to pick up half way down a double black and try to strap him to a backboard, I don't think I'd want to do it out there anyway.
Sorry this is so long, but they're really are a lot of differences, so I don't want to give anyone the wrong impression.
Gary
It's funny, cause I've been thinking that the UK would be my next (hopeful) home/work for a few years. I absolutely love Canada, but if you think you guys are getting Americanized, it is alot worse here.
One thing that you may not realize, if you've never been here, is just how friggin' big it is. The closest city to me is 300km, and it isn't really any bigger/better than where I am. The closest 'fun' city is 800km, I drive there quite regularly to go skiing in the mountains.
The speed laws here aren't too bad, I've had 3 speeding tickets in 9 years (wow, 9 years already, how time flies) and my insurance/registration has never gone up from them. Like you guys said, no scameras, they tried them in a couple of provinces, and damn near got wiped out over it, didn't last long, one summer here as I recall. They never even got to mount permanent ones, just the mobile ones got them in hot water.
Cars, unfortunately, are not our strong suit. Over here there are not many exotics. I've seen 2 Ferraris, 1 Diablo, 2 Esprits, in my ENTIRE life. Most people think a BMW is a sports car. sigh. Gas is relatively cheap ~40-70 cents/litre (0.20 - 0.30 pounds/litre, is that 20-30 pence?? sorry) Very few people have heard of Lotus, let alone TVR.
As for ski patrol, yeah lots of people lined up for it. I started last winter, thinking I'd be able to ski free at some of the mountains. Not a chance. Actually seeing some of the dumbasses they have to pick up half way down a double black and try to strap him to a backboard, I don't think I'd want to do it out there anyway.
Sorry this is so long, but they're really are a lot of differences, so I don't want to give anyone the wrong impression.
Gary
Reading this this morning got me thinking. Wife hates job wants to leave. I don't particulaly like the job i'm doing but it pays the bill, so why not just sell up and bugger off. There is nothing keeping us here.
I'm an industrial electrician specialising in waste management but ATM doing a job on the railways so a bit pi55ed off. Surely my profession will earn me lots of points for entry but the website above seems to come to a dead end when looking up points for jobs.
Has anyone on here sucessfully emigrated anywhere with family?
I'm an industrial electrician specialising in waste management but ATM doing a job on the railways so a bit pi55ed off. Surely my profession will earn me lots of points for entry but the website above seems to come to a dead end when looking up points for jobs.
Has anyone on here sucessfully emigrated anywhere with family?
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