Ken may renege on CC exemption for LPG cars...
Ken may renege on CC exemption for LPG cars...
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CarZee

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Thursday 16th January 2003
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Well well well... it seems that Ken's getting nervous about the sheer number of motorists converting to LPG in order to evade the congestion charges..

Something from the Grauniad on Monday.. :

www.guardian.co.uk/transport/Story/0,2763,873551,00.html

Ken Livingstone's officials have threatened to abolish a loophole permitting "green" cars to escape the London mayor's £5-a-day congestion charge amid signs that thousands of the capital's motorists are developing a new-found concern for the planet.
A clause in the charging scheme, which begins on February 17, allows vehicles using alternative fuels to enter central London without paying.

The get-out clause has prompted a flurry of motorists and corporate fleets to convert their vehicles to liquefied petroleum gas (LPG). The energy saving trust, a government-funded body which offers grants for green vehicles, has seen weekly applications soar by 80% since November.

A spokesman for Mr Livingstone's Transport for London authority said the mayor's advisers were "keeping a pretty damn close eye" on the trend. He pointed out that the congestion charge was supposed to stop traffic jams in the capital, rather than merely reducing pollution.

"If the exemption gets out of hand, we will act," he said. "That could mean tinkering with the charge.
Is there any limit to the bloody mindedness of these buggers?

tonybav

15,225 posts

292 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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Is there a conversion kit for my griff???

plotloss

67,280 posts

297 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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Seems he is showing his true colours then.

This CC is not about the environment after all, it about revenue generation plain and simple.

When does this tossers term as mayor end?

Matt.

johno

8,593 posts

309 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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This was in the Evening Standard yesterday aswell. The increased level of LPG application has only gone up 20 a day which is hardly a level which will threaten London congestion initially, although Ken will attempt to get money in any way.

To be honest, why the hell shouldn't LPG cars pay it anyway. It is a Congestion Charge, not a fuel charge, or propulsion charge.

Shouldn't be exempt in the first place. If I change the Griffith to run on Olive Oil and fag butts will it take up any less space than the when it drank 187 litres of Shells best for taking don Oxford ST.

Ken , uuurrnrnmmmm bugger arse Bah humbug tosser, w*nker stuck on tube yesterday bugger . .g.gihgsljlklLF FhljhfljhfoOI BNKJL KH AFSKahsDO9UOJLIJ fhfslaf df oij ohfsoi

RANT !! Leftie pinko nutter !

Ken is also rather concerned about another consequence of his Con. Charge ...

10 in 1000 scooter riders are killed in the capitol each year. Scooters go free, so inevitably there will be a significant increase in the numbers of scooters in use ...

Ken has set himself the target of reducing road death/accidentsin the capitol by 40% (I think) by the end of 2005. Hence now he is shitting himself he is going to be unable to succeed as all the mad scooter types are going to be throwing themselves down the roads of the capitol and buggering those plans up....

So watch bikers of the capitol, he'll be targetting you once the Charge is in !

CarZee

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plotloss said: When does this tossers term as mayor end?
2004 I think .. and Nobber Norris has practically been appointed as the Tory candidate for the next election..

Bring on Boris, I say.... well it'd be a laugh.. the CC cameras would be replaced with a magnum of chilled Bolly on ever street corner.. lol.

CarZee

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Thursday 16th January 2003
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johno said: Ken is also rather concerned about another consequence of his Con. Charge ...

10 in 1000 scooter riders are killed in the capitol each year. Scooters go free, so inevitably there will be a significant increase in the numbers of scooters in use ...

Ken has set himself the target of reducing road death/accidentsin the capitol by 40% (I think) by the end of 2005. Hence now he is shitting himself he is going to be unable to succeed as all the mad scooter types are going to be throwing themselves down the roads of the capitol and buggering those plans up....
Yep - I've been predicting this for some time.. bring on the natural selection I say.. the only way we'll be allowed to get into London eventually will be by Magic Carpet..

CarZee

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Thursday 16th January 2003
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Interestingly, if I converted my Primula, it'd only be in funding band 3, hence would get 30% funding and no congestion charge exepmption..

OTOH a 4700CC Jeep Cherokee is in band 4, getting 40% conversion subsidy and full CC exemption..

how odd.

plotloss

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297 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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We couldnt have Boris as Mayor, how would he free himself to become PM?

What a happy day that would be.

Matt.

Eric Mc

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292 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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Apparently a certain Mr Clarkson and a certain Mr Livingstone are on the panel tonight on BBC's "Question Time". I might even watch it.

plotloss

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Thursday 16th January 2003
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Eric Mc said: Apparently a certain Mr Clarkson and a certain Mr Livingstone are on the panel tonight on BBC's "Question Time". I might even watch it.


Class!

Howard Marks is on soon as well, thats going to be one to watch.

Matt.

Agent006

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291 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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CarZee said:

Bring on Boris, I say.... well it'd be a laugh.. the CC cameras would be replaced with a magnum of chilled Bolly on ever street corner.. lol.


Yeah, i agree. The place would go down the pan, but it'd be a great laugh.