Another Zymol Benefit?
Another Zymol Benefit?
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ballcock

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3,855 posts

247 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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Having run 996 now for 7 months , mostly on motorways (Yes we have them here in Ireland too .. All 34 miles of them),it came as a huge shock to see all the stone chips the low bonnet can collect in a very short space of time , but I kid you not , since my first coat of Zymol , the stone chip increase has been minimal.
It WAS suggested to me that the wax sets so hard , it HELPS protect the surface. I'm amazed just HOW much it has helped.

damianc4s

910 posts

268 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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Pure coincidence.

Someone will be saying next that positively charged wax application repels the negatively charged stones reducing damage.

c2look

3,858 posts

253 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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damianc4s said:
Pure coincidence.

Someone will be saying next that THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE !!!.



johnnywishbone

1,171 posts

250 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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NOW THERES A THOUGHT !!!!

JWB

ballcock

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3,855 posts

247 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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Well .. makes sense to me that if theres an extra layer of rock hard 'stuff' on the car (and I put a few layers on the nose) , It's going to have SOME affect.
Plus of course the fact that the positively charged wa ... Oh ...

shed17

246 posts

264 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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I find after waxing that if I don't drive the car I get no stone chips. Wax is amazing

andrew medway

951 posts

245 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2006
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ballcock said:
Well .. makes sense to me that if theres an extra layer of rock hard 'stuff' on the car (and I put a few layers on the nose) , It's going to have SOME affect.
Plus of course the fact that the positively charged wa ... Oh ...


The layer of wax is so thin as to make no difference to stone chips. If you look at a stone chip, it takes out a dish shaped chunk and disorts the surrounding paintwork. The wax would have to be as thick as the paint or more to stop damage.

ballcock

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3,855 posts

247 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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Okay , you guys win...

I'm even more mystified about my reduced chipping now. If I figure it out , the franchise will be sold here, on site at a knock down price!!

domster

8,431 posts

298 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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Carnauba wax is actually harder than concrete when it sets, so it may do something in terms of protection, but surely a stone could still 'push' through and dent the underlying surface.

Maybe it helps prevent the paint from splintering or cracking by forming a layer on top of the original paint?

ballcock

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3,855 posts

247 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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domster said:
Carnauba wax is actually harder than concrete when it sets, so it may do something in terms of protection, but surely a stone could still 'push' through and dent the underlying surface.

Maybe it helps prevent the paint from splintering or cracking by forming a layer on top of the original paint?



Jeez Dom , I'd just conceded defeat ... Where the hell WERE you these last 24 hours!

Right.. that's me back on my soap box.... SOMETHING'S reduced the number of stone chips I've been getting , and in the absence of any other explanation ,my money's on Zymol

ok jwb , I want 10% commission on the jobs you get off the back of this thread!

jeremyc

27,884 posts

312 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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ballcock said:
domster said:
Carnauba wax is actually harder than concrete when it sets, so it may do something in terms of protection, but surely a stone could still 'push' through and dent the underlying surface.

Maybe it helps prevent the paint from splintering or cracking by forming a layer on top of the original paint?


Jeez Dom , I'd just conceded defeat ... Where the hell WERE you these last 24 hours!

Right.. that's me back on my soap box.... SOMETHING'S reduced the number of stone chips I've been getting , and in the absence of any other explanation ,my money's on Zymol
I suspect that the time spent lovingly applying the wax means that less driving is done and hence the rate at which stone chips appear decreases.

domster

8,431 posts

298 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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LOL, when I first heard of Zymol someone told me that they'd seen a stone actually STICK 'into' the wax, and I had this vision of it being about a mm thick or something. It actually buffs down to microns or something, so that can't be true at all, but surely any extra layer on the paint will offer some protection, no matter how small.

ballcock

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3,855 posts

247 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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domster said:
LOL, when I first heard of Zymol someone told me that they'd seen a stone actually STICK 'into' the wax, and I had this vision of it being about a mm thick or something. It actually buffs down to microns or something, so that can't be true at all, but surely any extra layer on the paint will offer some protection, no matter how small.


I can't believe you're talking me into it , Dom , keep goin!!

What about if (like me) you put not one , but three layers of the stuff on the nose section...

domster

8,431 posts

298 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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Well, the more layers the better, but the only way to really protect the paint must be that 3M stonechip film, surely?

D

ballcock

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247 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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I have to admit that this thread was started with tongue firmly in place against left cheek (My own cheek unfortunately).
Obviously , a product that protects against stone chips , like 3M , is going to have to perform .. My surprise was that Zymol , which makes no such claims , SEEMS to be HELPING .. no more , no less.

nel

4,830 posts

269 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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Hey ballcock, I reckon that you should change your name to poppycock!

Unless of course the extra smooth finish of the layer of Zymol allows a reduction in the thickness of the boundary layer in the airflow, creating a higher pressure differential across the turbulent shear zone thereby flinging the nasty rocks away!

[Poppycock - if you use this theory (i.e. line of BS) in your marketing I want credit...]

ballcock

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3,855 posts

247 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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nel said:
Hey ballcock, I reckon that you should change your name to poppycock!

Unless of course the extra smooth finish of the layer of Zymol allows a reduction in the thickness of the boundary layer in the airflow, creating a higher pressure differential across the turbulent shear zone thereby flinging the nasty rocks away!

[Poppycock - if you use this theory (i.e. line of BS) in your marketing I want credit...]


Nice theory Nel .. Get your own thread!
Fluid dynamics has no place in my so called brain.

andrew medway

951 posts

245 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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domster said:
Well, the more layers the better, but the only way to really protect the paint must be that 3M stonechip film, surely?

D


You could keep layering the wax untill you get 40 or 50kg on the nose. This would stop all stones bar metorites and wayward comets.

Hey Ballcock, have you ever thought the reducion in stone chips could be due to the reduction in stones? Perhaps there are simply less stones where you live through natural reasons such as emmigration, disease or the like.

pesty

42,655 posts

284 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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Pah thats nothing.

Swizzol's new ERW formula (thats explosive reactive wax)active protection system system rapidly detects and tracks any stone, classifies it, estimates the optimal intercept point in space and finally neutralizes it away from the paint using an enzime countermeasure that melts in your hand for easy application.

sorry couldnt help myself these my wax is better than your wax threads are getting silly.

ballcock

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3,855 posts

247 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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My wax IS better than yours , silly billy.