tyres (again) sorry, michelin Pilot Sport Cup

[DucatiGary]

few people said they where good grip and "alright" wear, anyone on here know if they are any good? or bad?

etc

currently only run conti sport N2's at the moment N1's before but thinking to swap em all for these.

thanks in advance.

[escobar]

Have had a set on for around 3 months.

Need to be replaced now.

Not found them great on the road, seem to need a lot of heat...more suited to Track use I expect.

[tony.t]

I can't actually think of a road legal tyre that wears out faster than Michelin plot sport cups. They're a road legal track tyre that come with minimal treas and soft compound so you'll be lucky to get 3K miles out of them.

As for grip they're superb when hot, good in the dry when warm, poor in the damp or cold and a bit of a handful in the wet.

[joe911]

tony.t said:

I can't actually think of a road legal tyre that wears out faster than Michelin plot sport cups. They're a road legal track tyre that come with minimal treas and soft compound so you'll be lucky to get 3K miles out of them. As for grip they're superb when hot, good in the dry when warm, poor in the damp or cold and a bit of a handful in the wet.

I've not personally run Corsa's but I understood that the Pirelli Corsa's wear quicker than the MPSC's.

[ninesixfourRS]

£291 a piece 4mm of tread hmmm and about 3 thousand miles sounds a tad expensive for a car in everyday use might be better on a set of track only rims stick with michelin N2's

[joe911]

I still run the Dunlop SSR's - miles better than regular road tyres - not as much grip (in the dry) as MPSC's - but still available for 100 quids a tyre! Easy decision.

[escobar]

I wont be buying Sport Cups again. 3 months useage and £800 plus per change isnt the best value for money out there.

SO2's or whatever anybody else has good experience of is next for me.

[peterpeter]

joe911 said:

I still run the Dunlop SSR's - miles better than regular road tyres - not as much grip (in the dry) as MPSC's - but still available for 100 quids a tyre! Easy decision.

but you cant get them in 285 sizes..plus they are discontinued aren't they??

[964RS]

MPCS's really are just a track tyre, and on the track they are awesome in the dry when nice and hot and you can run them down to no tread at all and they still are very very sticky.

As a road tyre? No.

and as my car is mainly track used I can't advise on the best road tyre....sorry.

Jason

[kiko]

Where can I get Dunlop SSR's 225/40 18 and 295/30 18? Many people use them as street tyre as they seem to wear alot better then MPSC and they're in between the PS2 and PSC just as the Yoko Advan AD07 which is available (unfortunately not in Portugal) in pretty much all modern Porsches and was developed with Porsche in mind.

[joe911]

kiko said:

Where can I get Dunlop SSR's 225/40 18 and 295/30 18? Many people use them as street tyre as they seem to wear alot better then MPSC and they're in between the PS2 and PSC just as the Yoko Advan AD07 which is available (unfortunately not in Portugal) in pretty much all modern Porsches and was developed with Porsche in mind.

I understand that Dunlop SSR's are just no longer available in 18's.
There are still stocks (I think - I got some 2 months ago) of the 17's.

I believe they are no longer making the SSR's at all and that any availability is from existing stock.

Dunlop are releasing a replacement AFAIK - but no idea when!

[br d]

Oh dear. I've just ordered a set of Michelin Pilot Sports because I thought they were the best tyre for my 997S, got through the P-Zero's in 5000 miles, are the normal MP Sports the same as the MP Sport Cups?
The bloke rang me just yesterday to say they were in and awaiting fitting, should i change to something else?

Thanks.

br d

[joe911]

br d said:

Oh dear. I've just ordered a set of Michelin Pilot Sports because I thought they were the best tyre for my 997S, got through the P-Zero's in 5000 miles, are the normal MP Sports the same as the MP Sport Cups?

MPS and MPS-Cups are completely different.

[lemon yella rs]

Anyone know of a good supplier for SSR's and what sizes are availiable for 964RS. I have just about made up my mind on a set. And what price?

[joe911]

lemon yella rs said:

Anyone know of a good supplier for SSR's and what sizes are availiable for 964RS. I have just about made up my mind on a set. And what price?

100 quid each (give or take a handful of notes).
Available from ... Mr Tyre Motorsport.
You do have to run slightly non-standard sizes, but they work well.

[henry-f]

There is a lot of confusion and bullshit with all this tyre talk:

Michelin Pilot Sport Cup (and cup is the important bit) are a pure trackday tyre that just happen to be road legal. The same is true of tyres like Dunlop`s D-01, D-98 & Pirelli`s Corsa. They are not designed to last for ever or go through many heat cycles. Their sole aim in life is to help the suspension work properly on the car and provide consistent grip. Their first cousins are slick race tyres which typically have a life of around 2 hours or a couple of heat cycles, so you can see they are sensitive souls and not really at home on the open road. The theory is you drive to the trackday and back home again then put normal road tyres back on the car.


Normal road tyres, like Michelin Pilot Sport (not Sport Cup - see above), coninental contisport, etc are designed to work in all weathers. Some tyres have different strengths than others ie in the wet, but ultimately they all aim to be a jack of all trades. The trade off is that ultimately they will not be as grippy and consistent as the trackday tyres but, because of a harder compound, they will last much longer and be happy to go through any number of heat cycles.

You only need to be thinking about trackday tyres if you are running the car on the track, (oddly enough !). You get caught out in a sudden downpour or hit standing water at 80mph in a Michelin Pilot Sport Cup (note the cup bit) and you are likely as hell to come a cropper. The poor souls who have to run them in competition in the wet cut wider grooves and add lateral cuts as well as increasing the tyre pressure. You are unlikely to be able to do this on the side of the road as the rain starts falling !

The rest of us run special grooved wet tyres with ultra soft compounds that last about 3 laps in the dry.

Henry




>> Edited by henry-f on Friday 5th May 00:49