Just bought the Piooly Induction kit - how easy to fit?

[Trixster]

Evening all, I've just done some research here and on Seloc and have decided to splash out on one of these babys: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dl

For £65 inc postage it seems like a no-brainer over the £100 extra Hurricane, certainly as the feedback on the kit on Pistonheads over the past year has been so favourable.

I'd like to save even more cash by fitting it myself too. Horizon have quoted £60 to fit a Hurricane (so 2 hours work) but plenty of people have said it's easy enough to fit at home. My question is, just HOW easy is it, bearing in mind I'm a bit of a mechanical biff. I know my way around a socket set (and if push comes to shove I can head to sheffield and get my technically-minded dad and brother to do the work!) and a screw driver so is it worth having a go at it myself or will i end up with grazed knuckles, a filter box in bits and the air turned blue with invective?! Car is a standard S2 btw.

[shangani]

Not difficult at all. On a standard S2 you only have 1 airbox to remove iirc. You need a small spanner for 1 bolt size 8 iirc. You will see where the airbox is bolted to the frame. The rest is really easy.

Fitting an induction kit was my first bit of DIY on my car. Not a lengthy job and I am / was a total mechanical numptie. Have no fear, it is not a job you can really get wrong.

[Trixster]

Thanks for the reply shangani - for a £60 saving I'm determined to give it a go myself in any case! Good to here it's a bit more straight-forward for the non-ac car - I had images of wheel-off shenanegans...

[piooly]

Trixster said:

Thanks for the reply shangani - for a £60 saving I'm determined to give it a go myself in any case! Good to here it's a bit more straight-forward for the non-ac car - I had images of wheel-off shenanegans...

Hi Trixster,

Glad to hear its now been recieved. I hope the quality is to your standard. Fitting really is easy. Just whip the old airbox out your about done. The worst bit is just leaning over the back end of the car to do it. Any queries, let me know.

[Trixster]

Not arrived yet old chap, only ordered it about 2 hrs ago! (Unless there's been a revolution in the postal service!)

[Hollywood Wheels]

Let us know how it goes mate, thinking of ordering one myself and it seems easy enough to fit. He's a Sport 160 man after all, so he can be trusted completely......

[S Works]

Don't believe the "it's easy" bit unless you are very patient and VERY lucky.

Having fitted 2 Hurricanes now (1 success, 1 failure) both involved a large amount of swearing, sweating and hassle, and both involved a dremel to take off the airbox from "that bastard nut" which connects it to the n/s rollbar strut.

Suggest first removing the existing clips and hose to TB first, then take out the top of the OEM airbox, remove the panel filter and unhook all fittings apart from the recessed bolt (l/h/s as you look into the box from the rear).

Then jack up the rear and place the car on axel stands, and ensure the front wheels are chocked. Remove n/s rear wheel, and wheel-arch liner. With this out you can get access to the intake hose (remove) and the bolt/nut combo now holding the airbox to the strut. If you can't undo it within 10 minutes you will have fouled the nut and I'd suggest getting a dremel out and cutting a small sqare out of the airbox from the inside to cut around the bolt. Then you can get the airbox out and unscrew the nut/bolt with ease, or just cut it off.

Fitting the new filter and hose is then a doddle. May the force be with you!

[james fraser 111]

i'm thinking of fitting a stainless steel exhaust and a sports air filter to a s1 elise how much more power would it give from the normal 145 engine

[shangani]

james fraser 111 said:

i'm thinking of fitting a stainless steel exhaust and a sports air filter to a s1 elise how much more power would it give from the normal 145 engine

What normal 145 engine? The S1 VVC engine from the 111s? It is not going to give much in the way of power - 2 or so bhp for an induction kit (any one - the £300 ITG will be no better). Possibly a few bhp from the exhause. Also bear in mind the sports exhaust saves >10kg of weight. I would be surprised if you gain much over 5 bhp in total. However, thecar will sound loads better and will rev more easily.

[piooly]

Trixster said:

Not arrived yet old chap, only ordered it about 2 hrs ago! (Unless there's been a revolution in the postal service!)

Sorry Trixster, Got you confused with another purchaser. Should be with you very soon !

SWORKS - As for fitting, it is pretty easy. The thing to remeber with out sport 160's is that they have 2 airboxes, the second being a git to get out where as the other elise's dont have this.

[shangani]

Correct, but bear in mind the 111s / 111 variants have the dual airbox as well, standard S2 not. The bottom airbox is the problem, but you don't have one on the S2, so I stick to the original thought that is is not a tough job.

[dogchillibilly]

ummm dual air boxes???? Ar*e

I have a 54 111S
Does this mean dual airboxes????

I have a Hurricane to fit this weekend and was looking forward to what i thought would be a fairly simple fit.

How easy is the bottom box to get out? and should it come out?



>> Edited by dogchillibilly on Monday 8th May 17:02

[s works]

piooly said:

SWORKS - As for fitting, it is pretty easy. The thing to remeber with out sport 160's is that they have 2 airboxes, the second being a git to get out where as the other elise's dont have this.

It's 'pretty easy' only if that bolt comes free first time. If it doesn't then it is a right pain in the bum.

Seeing as the guy has an S2 the Sport 160/111S twin box arrangement shouldn't be an issue.

Once they are on though these induction kits (all of them) are good for another 25bhp easy

[s works]

dogchillibilly said:

ummm dual air boxes???? Ar*e I have a 54 111S Does this mean dual airboxes???? I have a Hurricane to fit this weekend and was looking forward to what i thought would be a fairly simple fit. How easy is the bottom box to get out? and should it come out?

Yes it does have one, though your second one is tucked away up inside the n/s rear wing. Follow instructions above and jack it up onto axel stands. When you take the liner out you'll see it above you, follow the pipework from the bigger airbox if you're not sure. You don't HAVE to remove it, but getting it out removes all the crap from in there which is added weight.

Take care when re-attaching the bracket on the S2, don't overtighten it or you'll crack the bodywork.

[faithless]

How much more noise does an induction kit give? I find my s2 pretty loud anyway

[james fraser 111]

what air filter and sports exhause would anyone recomend

[kevin ritson]

james fraser 111 said:

what air filter and sports exhause would anyone recomend

It's very subjective - personally I love the Larini/Hurricane combo in mine but someone else will recommend a Janspeed and ITG and someone else will say Quicksilver and Pipercross...hang on, I've just described my, Tim and Boggy's cars...point proven, I guess!

[shangani]

Well I gave away my induction kit, kept the airboxes and put in an ITG panel filter. £30, pretty much the same result. Job done in 3 min.

[crazy6]

shangani are you saying that the £30 ITG pro panel filter will do the job if it's just the sound of the engine I am wanting to toughen up? Would be a hell of a lot easier to swap and tons cheaper so any thoughts are appreciated.

[ferrisbueller]

james fraser 111 said:

what air filter and sports exhause would anyone recomend

My 111S has an Eliseparts exhaust and sounds much much better as a result. Induction kit may follow, but I'm undecided. Do the exhaust first, a doddle to do it yourself assuming you have access to a ramp.