997 Turbo and RUF CTR on the Autobahn.....
997 Turbo and RUF CTR on the Autobahn.....
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adamt

Original Poster:

2,825 posts

280 months

Monday 8th May 2006
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Oh yes, this was very very interesting.

Last night Lisa and I were coming back from a weekend at the Nurburgring with RMA. She was in the R turbo, and i was following in the CTR. Late last night, about 11:30pm. Just after stuttgart the autobahn becomes very wide and very fast. Completely derestricted. So we are doing around 160kmh due to traffic in the fast lane. when i look in my rear view mirror and see Xenons about 500m away, closing in on the little yellowbird very very quickly. Hmmm so as it approaches i pull in, and it blasts past. And i see that it is indeed a 997tt.

Initial impressions: it sits on the road very well. Looks good, however it wasnt quite an event. Hard to describe, i didnt like where the exhausts sat in the middle of the bumper either. But overall impressed.

So back to the story: I pull back out and follow him, he has now braked really really late and is about 2 foot from the pert red rump of the r turbo. Traffic infront of the r turbo clears and lisa gently accelerates away, the 997tt stays there and flashes her to move over. She does, he just absolutely blasts off, but i was ready.

I had turned boost up to full, (i had been driving home on low boost) so full 1.2bar, and i had shifted down to fifth. When he went he was approx. 8 car lengths ahead of me, and he had a slight advantage as he was nailed quite a bit before me. So we both go, and jeez it is taking me longer than i expected to catch him. Its so hard to describe exact comparisons because there are so many variables but i remember redlining 5th and shifting as quick as possible into 6th and then drawing alongside at approx 285kmh. The best way to describe any accelerative comparison is that the CTR was catching it at a very quick walk. But boy did i have to push. And this guy was some kind of factory test driver methinks. Anywho he pulls in at 300 and im alongside, then we slow for approaching traffic. I can see him looking over (no doubt thinking WTF?!) Sadly he had to pull in and take the next exit but he put his emergency lights on and i flashed him.

I called lisa, who later told me that she did nail the r turbo, but it wouldnt boost, it only went to 0,4 bar, so she was absolutely livid And this has been an intermittent problem for a few months now, have to get it checked, to think that it did it then, with a brand new 997tt is just about the definition of sods law i can think of...

Oh when we slowed, the 997tt had glowing exhausts! Very nice.

Great fun. Very fast.

all the best
adam

flamespitter

154 posts

255 months

Monday 8th May 2006
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Maybe a licence saver (or life saver) for you and your girl that he pulled off and she was on low boost!
Those autobahns are freaky as they are only 2 laners on many unrestricted parts. 300kph+ is pretty hairy stuff even on a runway.
You should be thrilled that you still pulled away from the latest 911 turbo which as you point out was most probably being driven by a factory driver for ongoing evaluation.

sambaman

3,991 posts

252 months

Monday 8th May 2006
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top story dude, love it !!!

adamt

Original Poster:

2,825 posts

280 months

Monday 8th May 2006
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flamespitter said:
Maybe a licence saver (or life saver) for you and your girl that he pulled off and she was on low boost!
Those autobahns are freaky as they are only 2 laners on many unrestricted parts. 300kph+ is pretty hairy stuff even on a runway.
You should be thrilled that you still pulled away from the latest 911 turbo which as you point out was most probably being driven by a factory driver for ongoing evaluation.


I think you missed the part where i mentioned that the road became very wide and derestricted... in this case it was 4 lanes.

mr_tony

6,350 posts

297 months

Monday 8th May 2006
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Adam - if I hadn't met you at VMAX an kow you're a nice guy then I'd probably hate you a lot. As it is I only hate you a little bit after reading this. - Great story - sounds like you gave the 997 something to think about!

rumplestiltskin

1,084 posts

250 months

Monday 8th May 2006
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I think the 997TT came out of that looking very impressive. Modified car, 1.2bar boost, redlining it & you didn't gain all that quickly. I assume the 997TT was standard out of the box, meaning its gotta be very very fast as standard....just wait until RUF or other tuners get their hands on it !!

R.

adamt

Original Poster:

2,825 posts

280 months

Monday 8th May 2006
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Tecnically my car isnt modified

But yes i agree the CTR hits 200mph from rest in 35s, i was really impressed by the 997tt.

Porsche have really moved the game on folks.

all the best
adam

dazren

22,612 posts

289 months

Monday 8th May 2006
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adamt said:
Porsche have really moved the game on folks.

Oh dear. Don't suppose this 997TT could have been modified, eg putting out more power than the standard car which is being launched?

Whatever they've done, we need to get one along to a VMAX ASAP.

DAZ

>> Edited by dazren on Monday 8th May 11:47

markbe

1,755 posts

254 months

Monday 8th May 2006
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Or maybe a development car with the new GT2 engine..

Mark

neil_cardiff

17,113 posts

292 months

Monday 8th May 2006
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dazren said:
adamt said:
Porsche have really moved the game on folks.

Oh dear. Don't suppose this 997TT could have been modified, eg putting out more power than the standard car which is being launched?

Whatever they've done, we need to get one along to a VMAX ASAP.

DAZ

>> Edited by dazren on Monday 8th May 11:47


Oops, you may have just bankrupted a few here

Podie

46,649 posts

303 months

Monday 8th May 2006
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dazren said:
adamt said:
Porsche have really moved the game on folks.

Oh dear. Don't suppose this 997TT could have been modified, eg putting out more power than the standard car which is being launched?

Whatever they've done, we need to get one along to a VMAX ASAP.

DAZ

>> Edited by dazren on Monday 8th May 11:47


Could be a development mule... certainly not uncommon practice in the industry to have a mule running a far more powerful engine...

Could be the equivalent of the "X50" pack?

>> Edited by Podie on Monday 8th May 15:20

s3am

1,383 posts

280 months

Monday 8th May 2006
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Exciting stuff there Adam, makes the North Circular seem very dour indeed.

911fan

438 posts

288 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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adamt said:
Oh yes, this was very very interesting.

Last night Lisa and I were coming back from a weekend at the Nurburgring with RMA. She was in the R turbo, and i was following in the CTR. Late last night, about 11:30pm. Just after stuttgart the autobahn becomes very wide and very fast. Completely derestricted. So we are doing around 160kmh due to traffic in the fast lane. when i look in my rear view mirror and see Xenons about 500m away, closing in on the little yellowbird very very quickly. Hmmm so as it approaches i pull in, and it blasts past. And i see that it is indeed a 997tt.

Initial impressions: it sits on the road very well. Looks good, however it wasnt quite an event. Hard to describe, i didnt like where the exhausts sat in the middle of the bumper either. But overall impressed.

So back to the story: I pull back out and follow him, he has now braked really really late and is about 2 foot from the pert red rump of the r turbo. Traffic infront of the r turbo clears and lisa gently accelerates away, the 997tt stays there and flashes her to move over. She does, he just absolutely blasts off, but i was ready.

I had turned boost up to full, (i had been driving home on low boost) so full 1.2bar, and i had shifted down to fifth. When he went he was approx. 8 car lengths ahead of me, and he had a slight advantage as he was nailed quite a bit before me. So we both go, and jeez it is taking me longer than i expected to catch him. Its so hard to describe exact comparisons because there are so many variables but i remember redlining 5th and shifting as quick as possible into 6th and then drawing alongside at approx 285kmh. The best way to describe any accelerative comparison is that the CTR was catching it at a very quick walk. But boy did i have to push. And this guy was some kind of factory test driver methinks. Anywho he pulls in at 300 and im alongside, then we slow for approaching traffic. I can see him looking over (no doubt thinking WTF?!) Sadly he had to pull in and take the next exit but he put his emergency lights on and i flashed him.

I called lisa, who later told me that she did nail the r turbo, but it wouldnt boost, it only went to 0,4 bar, so she was absolutely livid And this has been an intermittent problem for a few months now, have to get it checked, to think that it did it then, with a brand new 997tt is just about the definition of sods law i can think of...

Oh when we slowed, the 997tt had glowing exhausts! Very nice.

Great fun. Very fast.

all the best
adam


Great story, sry to ask but what is a CTR and R turbo?

granville

18,764 posts

289 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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dazren said:
Whatever they've done, we need to get one along to a VMAX ASAP.


Permission to disagree, passionately?

NAS

2,586 posts

259 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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Good story mate

That 997 certainly has to be really good if you had to try that hard in the CTR.

BTW: you in Munich this WE?

granville

18,764 posts

289 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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I'll wager the new car (997tt) is the finest thing since Monster Munch launched their 'Flamin' Hot' range of spicy snackettes.

welshchris

1,291 posts

282 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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911fan said:
Great story, sry to ask but what is a CTR and R turbo?


Pork of the organic, flame-grilled variety - served with all the trimmings

See www.ruf-automobile.de for more info.

Anyway, I driving home last night and saw something very fast approaching in the rear view mirror, so anyway...

.... oh never mind - I can't compete with Adam's tale

Spice_Weasel

2,361 posts

281 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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Great story, sry to ask but what is a CTR and R turbo?[/quote]

Herr Ruf's take on 964 and 996 Turbo! Click on Adam's profile for details...

DJC

23,563 posts

264 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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Hmm, Im a little surprised, there seem to be a few ppl who are a little *shocked* shall we say, that the new 997tt is so good. Why? I mean, they take the 996tt which was the best car ever made and then improve it the same way Porsche have done development for the last 50yrs...slow, incremental evolution. It would take a up of monumental proportions for the new 997tt *not* to be absolutely, utterly brilliant! I also fail to see why some of you are wondering if it was a fiddled with engine. The damn thing hits the ton in around 8 secs dead and knocks onto about 190ish. Adam was saying he was faster, but not by *that* much and he was very impressed with it and whilst he is in a yellowbird, its also a 15ish yo car/design, modified or not!

997tt ... its a no brainer. It was a no brainer 21/2 yrs ago when I placed my order!

adamt

Original Poster:

2,825 posts

280 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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Here are some pics from the weekend,

R turbo and CTR at the ring:



Here is the lineup of the ruf cars on sunday, CTR, a brand new RT12 owned by the previous owner of my CTR, the r turbo, and Mr Ruf's RCT Evo:



Niek,

Not sure as yet if i will be in muenchen, will you be over?

all the best
adam

>> Edited by adamt on Tuesday 9th May 11:28