Yuji Ide loses his Super Licence
Yuji Ide loses his Super Licence
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woody

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Wednesday 10th May 2006
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F1live.com said:

Yuji Ide loses his Super Licence

The FIA have rescinded Yuji Ide's Super Licence, the document required to compete in Formula One, the Super Aguri Honda team has confirmed. The Japanese driver will therefore not be participating in any further events this year.

The news means that Franck Montagny will return with the team this weekend at Circuit de Catalunya, his second outing for the squad. The former Renault test driver will also race for the team at the Monaco Grand Prix two weeks later.

Ide made four starts for the team but was never on the pace of team-mate Takuma Sato and made headlines for his rash passing attempt at Imola that saw Christijan Albers sent into a series of barrel rolls in his MF1 Toyota.

A statement from Super Aguri Honda read: "It is with sadness and regret that the team accepts this decision, however Aguri Suzuki and A.Company (Japan) shall continue to seek driving opportunities for Yuji and hopefully a path back into Formula One."


Can't say as I'm suprised - but aren't the FIA being a bit harsh?

I mean look at some of the nutters that Minardi etc. have had in the cars over the last couple of years....

egomeister

7,525 posts

287 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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Very harsh I think.

Yes he's made mistakes but I don't think he is significantly worse than some of the other tail-enders over the last ten or fifteen years.

I think it was quite telling if you read the transcript of the Thursday press conference from Germany that when asked about Ide losing his drive Albers, Heidfeld and Klein responded but both Schumachers replied "No comment"....

FourWheelDrift

91,923 posts

308 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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Not suprised either Ide was around 3secs slower than Sato in all the sessions for all the races they were in together. Montagny was 0.1 and 0.2s slower than Sato on Friday for the last race and quicker than Sato on Saturday, only a problem in qualifying kept him from challenging again Saturday afternoon.

I guess it's to stop them putting him back in just for the Japanese Grand Prix if he's not really up to F1 pace yet.

robbiemeister

1,307 posts

294 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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Did it seem strange to anyone else that SA mentioned they stood Ide down at the FIA's request.

I would have thought they should have kept that bit quiet.

Maybe this is sour grapes.

The decision was made by Bernie, Max, Toady and Sir Frank (or was it Sir Alan (you're a lightweight - you're fired!))

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

251 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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Don't see a problem with this - if you're not good enough/ready you shouldn't be in F1. This is supposed to be the best circuit drivers in the world, not people who can get in by dint of wealth or nationality.

Sure, the system is by no means perfect (Taki Inoue, anyone?) but perhaps it's time an example was set. Ide didn't make the cut, so he's out fair and square.

awracing

1,743 posts

249 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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kevin ritson said:
Don't see a problem with this - if you're not good enough/ready you shouldn't be in F1. This is supposed to be the best circuit drivers in the world, not people who can get in by dint of wealth or nationality.

Sure, the system is by no means perfect (Taki Inoue, anyone?) but perhaps it's time an example was set. Ide didn't make the cut, so he's out fair and square.


Totally agree, just because it hasnt happened in the past doesnt mean it shouldnt happen now.

Gruffy

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283 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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robbiemeister said:
Did it seem strange to anyone else that SA mentioned they stood Ide down at the FIA's request. I would have thought they should have kept that bit quiet.
Presumably this was done to avoid the wrath of the Japanese public.

I agree with Kevin.

robbiemeister

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Wednesday 10th May 2006
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Gruffy said:
robbiemeister said:
Did it seem strange to anyone else that SA mentioned they stood Ide down at the FIA's request. I would have thought they should have kept that bit quiet.
Presumably this was done to avoid the wrath of the Japanese public.


Undoubtably, but have they inccured the wrath of the FIA.



>> Edited by robbiemeister on Wednesday 10th May 19:48

FourWheelDrift

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308 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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woody said:
I mean look at some of the nutters that Minardi etc. have had in the cars over the last couple of years....


Like Alonso, Webber, Wilson and Fisichella....... ah..........well, sometimes they do get it right

Gruffy

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283 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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robbiemeister said:
Gruffy said:
robbiemeister said:
Did it seem strange to anyone else that SA mentioned they stood Ide down at the FIA's request. I would have thought they should have kept that bit quiet.
Presumably this was done to avoid the wrath of the Japanese public.
Undoubtably, but have they inccured the wrath of the FIA.
It probably costs them less to piss off the FIA than it would to piss off the Japanese.

magic torch

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246 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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FourWheelDrift said:
woody said:
I mean look at some of the nutters that Minardi etc. have had in the cars over the last couple of years....


Like Alonso, Webber, Wilson and Fisichella....... ah..........well, sometimes they do get it right

Trulli too.

F1 needs a team like Minardi.

FourWheelDrift

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308 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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magic torch said:
FourWheelDrift said:
woody said:
I mean look at some of the nutters that Minardi etc. have had in the cars over the last couple of years....


Like Alonso, Webber, Wilson and Fisichella....... ah..........well, sometimes they do get it right

Trulli too.

F1 needs a team like Minardi.


No, Trulli really is a nutter

oggs

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278 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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woody

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Wednesday 10th May 2006
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FourWheelDrift said:
woody said:
I mean look at some of the nutters that Minardi etc. have had in the cars over the last couple of years....


Like Alonso, Webber, Wilson and Fisichella....... ah..........well, sometimes they do get it right


I was thinking along the lines of the mobile chicanes like Alex Yoong and Zsolt Baumgartner and that old Isrealy guy who totalled the car in testing on his first lap.

FourWheelDrift

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Wednesday 10th May 2006
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Hence my

pies

13,116 posts

280 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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So whats changed, a few months ago he was good enough for the FIA to give him a licence nows he's not

Another FIA balls up

FourWheelDrift

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308 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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pies said:
So whats changed, a few months ago he was good enough for the FIA to give him a licence nows he's not

Another FIA balls up


He passed the requirements of the FIA's superlicence terms and conditions.

1) Good eyesight
2) Ability to drive
3) Lots of money

Podie

46,649 posts

299 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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egomeister said:
Very harsh I think.

Yes he's made mistakes but I don't think he is significantly worse than some of the other tail-enders over the last ten or fifteen years.

I think it was quite telling if you read the transcript of the Thursday press conference from Germany that when asked about Ide losing his drive Albers, Heidfeld and Klein responded but both Schumachers replied "No comment"....


I seem to recall that even the "names" have pulled off some seriously dodgy stuff in their time...

Prost and Senna certainly did... seem to recall an incident with Schumacher & Hill... etc etc.

Does seem harsh, but I think the jump to F1 is still quite large...

Gruffy

7,212 posts

283 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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3 seconds slower than your team-mate in an identical car. What more reason do they need to revoke his licence?

oggs

8,815 posts

278 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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Good call Gruffs...
I'd thought it would of been better only allowing him to test for the season.