997 GT3RS wider body? 3.8 liter?
997 GT3RS wider body? 3.8 liter?
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GT2

Original Poster:

46 posts

244 months

Saturday 13th May 2006
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RS = Light weight

Wider body and 3.8 liter = More weight

The GT3 have standard body and 3.6 liter engine already weight 1395kg.
So I am wondering why the GT3RS will have a wider body and 3.8 liter engine?

And do you think the RS will be a limited edition again?

R1_JON

859 posts

272 months

Saturday 13th May 2006
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GT2 said:
RS = Light weight

Wider body and 3.8 liter = More weight

The GT3 have standard body and 3.6 liter engine already weight 1395kg.
So I am wondering why the GT3RS will have a wider body and 3.8 liter engine?

And do you think the RS will be a limited edition again?


I didn't realise the RS was a widebody. Just had a look at some pics and it doesn't look like it to me, could be wrong though. Either way depending on which stats you look at it is about 100Kgs lighter than a standard GT3.

Given the success of the RS, my guess is they will do a 997 GT3 RS.

slippydiff

16,377 posts

252 months

Saturday 13th May 2006
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MK1 996 GT3 was heavier than a "cooking" C2, didn't make it a bad car

R1_JON

859 posts

272 months

Saturday 13th May 2006
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slippydiff said:
MK1 996 GT3 was heavier than a "cooking" C2, didn't make it a bad car


Blimey, never knew that. Where does the extra weight come from?

slippydiff

16,377 posts

252 months

Saturday 13th May 2006
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R1_JON said:
slippydiff said:
MK1 996 GT3 was heavier than a "cooking" C2, didn't make it a bad car


Blimey, never knew that. Where does the extra weight come from?


C4 bodyshell, and engine and box being more "robust" are heavier than the standard C2 items.

nevetas

508 posts

260 months

Saturday 13th May 2006
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997 RS will be wide body

GT2

Original Poster:

46 posts

244 months

Saturday 13th May 2006
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nevetas said:
997 RS will be wide body


What about the 3.8 liter engine?
Limited Edition?

adamt

2,825 posts

281 months

Sunday 14th May 2006
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I dont think that it will come in a 3,8l engine. I think that porsche will put the same 3,6 engine as the 997gt3, but it will be the very high output engines, i.e 425bhp ones, that go to the RS, ala 996..

all the best
adam

johnny senna

4,073 posts

301 months

Sunday 14th May 2006
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R1_JON said:
GT2 said:
RS = Light weight

Wider body and 3.8 liter = More weight

The GT3 have standard body and 3.6 liter engine already weight 1395kg.
So I am wondering why the GT3RS will have a wider body and 3.8 liter engine?

And do you think the RS will be a limited edition again?


I didn't realise the RS was a widebody. Just had a look at some pics and it doesn't look like it to me, could be wrong though. Either way depending on which stats you look at it is about 100Kgs lighter than a standard GT3.

Given the success of the RS, my guess is they will do a 997 GT3 RS.




The 996 GT RS is narrow body. The chap was referring to the possibility of the forthcoming 997 GT3 RS being wide body. Lots of people think it will be. It should be lighter.

DanH

12,287 posts

289 months

Monday 15th May 2006
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The reasoning behind widebody is apparently to run wider track/fatter tyres on the race car which apparently was a limiting factor for Porsches racing ambitions with the 996. This solves that problem, although I'm not sure it will really benefit the road going version?

iguana

7,351 posts

289 months

Monday 15th May 2006
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964RS 3.8 fat arse wide body was (book figs) lighter than regular 964RS 3.6, (aluminium doors a big factor) so fat arse doesnt always mean more lard.

Oh and sort ya spell check out, somehow its slipped to yankydoodledandy settings- in the civilised world its litre

>> Edited by iguana on Monday 15th May 08:20

Geneve

4,018 posts

248 months

Monday 15th May 2006
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997 GT3RS is due to be officially announced in two weeks (29th) I believe.

GT2

Original Poster:

46 posts

244 months

Monday 15th May 2006
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You guys want a 3.6 or 3.8? I love the wide body and 3.8 litre engine. I have driven a 997C4S and that's wonderful!


>> Edited by GT2 on Monday 15th May 11:19

seandudding

495 posts

279 months

Monday 15th May 2006
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I agree with Adam the car will come with th 3.6 GT1 based engine and this will be the better choice.

The 3.8 is the standard M96 engine, and thus comes with all the related problems.

GT2

Original Poster:

46 posts

244 months

Monday 15th May 2006
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seandudding said:

The 3.8 is the standard M96 engine, and thus comes with all the related problems.


What problems?

AndrewKillington

887 posts

268 months

Monday 15th May 2006
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presumably stuff like the RMS

ChrisW.

8,148 posts

284 months

Monday 15th May 2006
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But there has been a suggestion that this engine could be pushed out to 4 litres max ....

A Wide bodied 3.8 GT1 base car would make everybody think --- even though the narrow body is possibly easier for threading along country roads.

But I have heard both rumours around.

GT2

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46 posts

244 months

Tuesday 16th May 2006
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AndrewKillington said:
presumably stuff like the RMS


What is RMS?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Tuesday 16th May 2006
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GT2 said:
AndrewKillington said:
presumably stuff like the RMS


What is RMS?


Do a search of the old threads, although you may find a bit of Ballcock's chaff along the way

johnny senna

4,073 posts

301 months

Tuesday 16th May 2006
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There is no reason why the GT3/GT1 engine can't be stretched to 4 litres.

If the 3.6 unit in the 997 GT3 now produces 415 BHP, by my calculations a 4 litre (on a proportional basis) would produce 461 BHP.

461 BHP is what Porsche need to be producing in the GT3 to give it similar power to the Ferrari 430. Ferrari have the benefit of 2 extra cylinders of course, so making extra power is easier for them as they don't have to stop at 4 litres.

But a 4 litre GT3 RS with 461 BHP weighing only 1250 kg would be quite a car. And there is absolutely no reason why they can't do this.