Stig's painted gearbox

Stig's painted gearbox

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james

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1,362 posts

285 months

Tuesday 21st January 2003
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Stig,

I notice that you've sprayed your gearbox with etch primer and silver wheel paint. Are they high temperature rated paints? The gearbox can get pretty warm you know, especially when you're on track. I'd have thought that they would blister with the heat.

James

jschwartz

836 posts

259 months

Tuesday 21st January 2003
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I've painted many engines with normal automotive etching/epoxy primer and Acrylic Urethane and had no problems. It's not heat rated exactly, but holds up. I'm sure the gearbox get no hotter than the engine.

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Tuesday 21st January 2003
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I did the Gearbox on the Beetle in primer and Automotive paint (orange to match the car) then did all the casing lines in Aluminium Oxide Silver paint.. it was either very very cool, or sadly misguided.. only me and the MOT tester ever saw it I guess.. lol.

Matt

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Tuesday 21st January 2003
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Slappy,

In my experience even high temperature paint comes off over time. The only thing that seems to be resilient to high temperatures is Cermachrome - and I didn't fancy baking the 'box Etch primer really makes a difference to the paints' abililty to stay put. If it bubbles/flakes off then so be it.

Besides, we all know that I'll blow the box before the that happens anyway

ultimaandy

1,225 posts

265 months

Tuesday 21st January 2003
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I etched mine then painted with satin black and its holding up alright.

I must admit I thought the exhaust heats the gearbox housing more than the internals, however I have had limited track use.

But like STIG say's, I recon keeping the paint on will be the least of his worries after that brut is run in.

vez

239 posts

259 months

Tuesday 21st January 2003
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Instead of painting it you could always get a professional restoration/engineering place to Bead blast the box instead, and this will bring it back to a better than new finish. We did this to our G50 and it looked the business.

Incase you are wondering what Bead blastic is, it is very similar to sand or shot blasting, but instead of lead or sand it uses tiny ceramic beads. Unlike sand of shot blasting, this leaves a great and fresh out of the casting look (where sand would dicolour the castings, as would lead; as well as lead giving a horrible texture).

Many concourse restorers use bead blasting to restore there gearboxes and engine blocks to better than new finishes and this is what we went for.

As far as it getting dirty are concerned, it seems that the bead finish doesnt attract dirt either!

james

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1,362 posts

285 months

Tuesday 21st January 2003
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I happen to have a bead blasting cabinet in my workshop, and I've done just that to various components over the years, although it tends to take a while, so I try not to do it on really big things, like gearboxes

They do look good, but you've got to be very careful to mask off any sensitive areas extremely well. A bit of masking tape is nothing to a high speed bead

vez

239 posts

259 months

Tuesday 21st January 2003
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Yup, have to mask off all openings to the internals of the box real well.

GTRCLIVE

4,186 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st January 2003
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Have Etched primed and Stain blacked my G50, paint still on even after a couple of times using Gunk and a Hose on it. Plus Matt black a good colour for thermal conduvtion of heat. ( Ever regreted where a black T shift, on a Hot summers day.) Lighter colours reflect heat, so engine and box of my cars have always been Matt Black.

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2003
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vez said: Instead of painting it you could always get a professional restoration/engineering place to Bead blast the box instead, and this will bring it back to a better than new finish. We did this to our G50 and it looked the business.

Incase you are wondering what Bead blastic is, it is very similar to sand or shot blasting, but instead of lead or sand it uses tiny ceramic beads. Unlike sand of shot blasting, this leaves a great and fresh out of the casting look (where sand would dicolour the castings, as would lead; as well as lead giving a horrible texture).

Many concourse restorers use bead blasting to restore there gearboxes and engine blocks to better than new finishes and this is what we went for.

As far as it getting dirty are concerned, it seems that the bead finish doesnt attract dirt either!


I considered this having had dozens of components done in the past, but would then have had to strip the 'box (which I didn't fancy doing) in case of any ingress of the blasting material.

But what really put me off is that the alloy oxidises after a while when exposed to road crap (especially salt). Etch/paint/lacquer is easy to clean for a long lasting 'new' finish.

adequatespeed

87 posts

276 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2003
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Agreed.

The bead blasted box does look the bollocks but after a year has started to oxidise due to salt etc...

Use gaffa tape to mask the box. This survives the bread blasting.

It does match the rest of the ali on the car as that has started to oxidize. Areas to watch out for are top of fuel tanks, radiator panels and the underside of the car. And the wheels need some fairly careful looking after too.

The local gritters tend to go totally mad these days and leave salt on the road for months.

I suggest you also consider painting the underside ali panels and any other bits you can get away with

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2003
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Over time, I'll probably end up painting various other bits and bobs. But until then, I'll enjoy the finish of the ally as it is.

Finished the 'box last night with all new nylocs to replace the old nuts. It looks mint.

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2003
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Also discovered last night that it's not a G50/02 as I thought (which would make it short ratio'd).

It's actually a G50/00 WITH lsd!

So it should be good for a few more mph at the top end too.

ULTIMALOVER

96 posts

261 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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Stig said: Over time, I'll probably end up painting various other bits and bobs. But until then, I'll enjoy the finish of the ally as it is.

Finished the 'box last night with all new nylocs to replace the old nuts. It looks mint.




Very nice paint job on the gearbox if I say so myself!!

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Friday 24th January 2003
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Why thank you!