New S1 Pads & Discs
Discussion
Just been quoted nearly 600 quid to replace pads and disks on my S1 111S by Christopher Neil. So I'm going to source parts and fit them myself with the aid of a mechanic mate.
But where's the cheapest place to buy the replacement cross-drilled disks ?
Help greatly appreciated ! Looking around the net I thought prices were ok.... until I realised that the disks didn't actually come in pairs ! ... which is making the Chris Neil quote almost understandable.
Many Thanks for your help
Ben
But where's the cheapest place to buy the replacement cross-drilled disks ?
Help greatly appreciated ! Looking around the net I thought prices were ok.... until I realised that the disks didn't actually come in pairs ! ... which is making the Chris Neil quote almost understandable.
Many Thanks for your help
Ben
Hey Ben,
As suggested, Eliseparts is a good place to start.
Should get turbo grooved disks and mintex pads for around £350.
Easy to fit in an afternoon, you will need a tool to wind the piston back into the caliper. You can use needle nose pliars but they are not ideal.
Also worth new fluid, so you will need to remove the front calipers to do a propper job. You'll therefore need some pipe sealant (like thread lock - sorry forgot the Lotus recommended stuff) when refitting the caliper bolts.
Afternoon's work I reckon if all goes well.
Dunc
As suggested, Eliseparts is a good place to start.
Should get turbo grooved disks and mintex pads for around £350.
Easy to fit in an afternoon, you will need a tool to wind the piston back into the caliper. You can use needle nose pliars but they are not ideal.
Also worth new fluid, so you will need to remove the front calipers to do a propper job. You'll therefore need some pipe sealant (like thread lock - sorry forgot the Lotus recommended stuff) when refitting the caliper bolts.
Afternoon's work I reckon if all goes well.
Dunc
Ring Hi-spec directly, they'll make you up some disks using ebc blanks and then they'll drill/groove (or both....but if you want both you may as well buy turbogrooves) i paid £320 or so for 4 grooved ones, they're really good and they look alot better than turbogrooves!
Mintex you should be able to get someone to price match down to £100...just ring round/generally lie/play them off against each other....
Chris
Mintex you should be able to get someone to price match down to £100...just ring round/generally lie/play them off against each other....
Chris
ferrisbueller said:
Look on Eliseparts.com.
EBC Turbogrove disks are good and something like Mintex pads for road use or Pagids for road / track use.
Just fitted these alround on mine, with EBC greenstuff pads. Still bedding them in but the whole lot was about £400 or so, fitted.
Got the EBC green stuff pads on my S1 111s and I have to say I'm not a big fan. The Lotus OEM ones were better IMHO.
yeah avoid greenstuff in my opinion, i just binned a set of half worn pads after a drive of my mates s1 with mmc's!..I then realised that my brakes were abomnible..although to their credit they never faded and were ok when they were hot...(read really hot)...
Mintex 1144's are an immediate improvement but still not as good as mmc's
pagids next for me!!
it is an easy DIY job...bout an hour...no need to bleed anything if your fluid is clean!
>> Edited by ChrisWann on Wednesday 17th May 13:14
>> Edited by ChrisWann on Wednesday 17th May 13:40
Mintex 1144's are an immediate improvement but still not as good as mmc's
pagids next for me!!
it is an easy DIY job...bout an hour...no need to bleed anything if your fluid is clean!
>> Edited by ChrisWann on Wednesday 17th May 13:14
>> Edited by ChrisWann on Wednesday 17th May 13:40
Wee Loon said:
How much of the £600 is for labour/parts ?. That's ridiculous, it's a 1 hour job max. Plus you don't need to bleed the system, your not breeching the hydraulics, only cahnging pads/discs. There's no real difficulty in doing it either so DIY.
Considering that'll probably be OE parts done by a dealer (probably £60+ an hour + VAT) I think that's a pretty good price. Yes, DIY will be cheaper, as will using non OE parts but that is not a ridiculous price especially if the disks have welded themeselves to the hubs or something similar.
Agree about bleeding not being necessary - it's a real faff, even using a pressure bleeder and unless there's a problem with the brakes being spongy or the fluid needs chnaging then it's not worth the hassle IMO.
ChrisWann said:
yeah avoid greenstuff in my opinion, i just binned a set of half worn pads after a drive of my mates s1 with mmc's!..I then realised that my brakes were abomnible..although to their they never faded and were ok when they were hot...(read really hot)...
Mintex 1144's are an immediate improvement but still not as good as mmc's
pagids next for me!!
it is an easy DIY job...bout an hour...no need to bleed anything if your fluid is clean!
>> Edited by ChrisWann on Wednesday 17th May 13:14
Think I may very well go down the same route
Green Stuff =
If you think £600 is reasonable for changing the discs and pads, even from a dealer, then you must be used to being ripped off. I work in the motor trade and can assure you even if the discs are seized on the hubs it's still a minor job. Changing the discs and pads on an Elise is no different from any other car so don't be fbbed off by dealers or "specialists"
ChrisWann said:
it is an easy DIY job...bout an hour...no need to bleed anything if your fluid is clean!
'Bout an hour for someone experienced but not for someone having a go for the first time.
My first attempt, I took an hour to get the wheel nuts off!
Then a further hour getting the car up on axle stands (blocks) and all wheels off!
My advice - do it yourself, it's such a great way of learning about your car, but take your time. Support your efforts with plenty of tea and enjoy the experience.
Oh, and in my opinion, you should bleed the system. It may not need it but it probably does. Besides, it seems only right that nice new disks and pads should have nice fresh fluid. I'd also say fit braided hoses as well. Do that little lot and it will transform your brakes.
Dunc
Wee Loon said:
If you think £600 is reasonable for changing the discs and pads, even from a dealer, then you must be used to being ripped off. I work in the motor trade and can assure you even if the discs are seized on the hubs it's still a minor job. Changing the discs and pads on an Elise is no different from any other car so don't be fbbed off by dealers or "specialists"
Thanks for your professional opinion and assurance.
I know it's a minor job, I did my own about six weeks ago.
Bearing in mind that from Eliseparts, a fulls et of EBC disks and pads is £400 inc VAT, a quote of £600 all in from a main agent using Lotus parts IS reasonable. It's exepnsive compared to what you could buy and then DIY but putting it in the context of dealer labour rates and parts markups it isn't that bad.
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