Admission speed cameras don't work

[voyds9]

New Truvelo in Rotherham for about 2 weeks, today there is a BiB with a tripod mounted laser 100 yards infront of it. Is this an admission that Joe Public only slows down in the measuring area? If so does it prove that cameras don't work or does it justify the need for more cameras.

[hertsbiker]

no, it's just a cynical means of extracting more money by catching you *before* the "safety zone" created by the scamera. Very possibly a naughty thing for the police to do - seems a bit unethical, and does indeed prove that cameras don't work.

Only problem is they'll put SPECS everywhere instead.

[Size Nine Elm]

We need to make speed cameras as socially unacceptable as drink driving.

[daydreamer]

They won't put SPECS everywhere Carl.

These have been shown to be extremely efficient at reducing speed, so therefore no revenue .

I had a fairly open mind to speed cameras until recently - I still support the SPECS on Stocksbridge bypass as they are saving lives (in this particular instance), but ever since getting pulled at 82 on a clear motorway I'm afraid that I'm developing more sceptical views

[mybrainhurts]

I'd risk a little bet with you, daydreamer, that the Stocksbridge bypass will still claim victims.

SPECS won't stop people crossing double whites, but it will prevent them accelerating out of trouble.

Let's see.

Still reckon it's the nearby ghosties causing trouble.............!!?

>> Edited by mybrainhurts on Thursday 23 January 03:13

[daydreamer]

No doubt there will still be victims, but I do think that this is one road where speed is a factor. IIRC many of the incidents there are not due to people overtaking on a double white line, but losing it on what looks like a very smooth road with very open bends. Also, most people do travel close to the NSL here, so anyone overtaking will tend to be speeding (which the SPECS should stop).

I can't understand why it is such a blackspot, but I do know how easy it is to get to 80 or 90 without realising due to the comfort factor that the road appears to inspire. You are possibly right - ghosts .

What I was trying to get across is that cameras possibly do have a place, but because they are being abused by the authorities, the chances of widespread support are becoming non existent .

[gavmitchell]

Just like to add my two penneth as I live 2 miles from the Stocksbridge bypass and i agree with mybrainhurts. It is a very bad situaton with the recent fatalities wbut I don't believe the addition of cameras on the 8ish mile stretch will stop another fatality. If there is another death on that road then I think it pretty much shows camera's don't work. Heres my view on why the road is dangerous.
Right, average company rep (or anyone else) has travelled from Manchester at 4.30 pm towards Sheffield, he/she has sat behind a 18 wheeler for 20 miles over the Woodhead pass averaging 25 mph on a 60mph road where it is possible to get the boot down(ish) if their is little traffic.
Driver becomes frustrated by this.
Driver stills sits behind 18 wheeler, now doing 30mph on the run down towards Stocksbridge.
Driver becomes more irate as his journey is taking 3 times what it should.
Driver gets to Stocksbridge bypass, and sees, at last after 25 miles, 2 lanes instead of one. Driver nails it to get past as many of the 18 wheelers in convoy as possible and either doesn't quite make it and crashes into bollards, or swerves to the other side of the road and wipes out another car. Or 1 of the other 30 cars that has stacked up behind rep driver does this. This can happen both ways as most of the bypass is high speed single carriage way with no opportunity to overtake. I've seen this happen nearly every time I have been on the bypass, always a near accident as someone tries to overtake as frustration gets the better off them. Camera's will not solve this problem.
More road space will.

[nonegreen]

Size Nine Elm said: We need to make speed cameras as socially unacceptable as drink driving.

Nah we need to make anti car propagada as socially unnaceptable as little boys, OOPS except in the parliamentarians club where that and charlie are the norm.