This can't be right
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Earlier this week an old lady from a local old folks home drove into the back of my wife's parked car and drove off without stopping. The wife's car was written off. Fortunately a witness followed the culprit all the way to her abode, and also made a note of both her address and her numberplate. We are of the view that as well as leaving the scene of the accident the culprit in question also has really bad eyesight and shouldn't be driving. In fact, wifie and I took the pragmatic view that at least she damaged a car and not a pedestrian - and we assumed she'd be called to task and probably banned.
However, I spoke to the copper tonight and he said all they're gonna do is write a strongly worded letter to her demanding that she admits liability and informs her insurance company. I asked why they wouldn't pursue it, bearing in mind (1) she left the scene of an accident; (2) we reckon she shouldn't be driving because of (suspected) bad eyesight. He simply said it's not worth their while.
Personally, I reckon getting a few of these half blind coffin-dodgers off the road is a little bit more of a public service that catching some poor sod on a camera who's doing 35 mph.
However, I spoke to the copper tonight and he said all they're gonna do is write a strongly worded letter to her demanding that she admits liability and informs her insurance company. I asked why they wouldn't pursue it, bearing in mind (1) she left the scene of an accident; (2) we reckon she shouldn't be driving because of (suspected) bad eyesight. He simply said it's not worth their while.
Personally, I reckon getting a few of these half blind coffin-dodgers off the road is a little bit more of a public service that catching some poor sod on a camera who's doing 35 mph.
matchless said:
yep the Police are only interested nowadays if theres money to be made, ie no money in solving murders so lets go persecute the Motorist again
Yeah right
A huge amount of resources (hours & money) are invested in solving murders. So much so that it led to a detection rate of 98% for all cases of murder, manslaughter & infanticide in 2004/5.
>> Edited by vonhosen on Friday 19th May 22:48
matchless said:
you believe statistics???
I think its just to do with the changed way that crime is Listed nowadays, the figures are made to artificially look better than they realy are, its called spin
Really.
How exactly do you spin a murder, manslaughter or infanticide into something else ?
Shakes head in disbelief... modern policing?
At law there appears to be a stone wall due care, fail to stop/report, possible eyesight offence which if taken to Court, OK ignore the monetaty punishment on Gran, the Court has the power to disqualify driver until such time as test passed. Fairly immediate and which in this case she will be unlikely to pass. Writing a letter (to whom?) DVLA to invoke their Medical procedures will take yonks. Meanwhile Ms Di Saster continues her merry ways creating havoc.
...and only one PC required to deal with this, not a fifty odd squad of the rubber heel squad.
Nannyfudging at its best.
dvd
At law there appears to be a stone wall due care, fail to stop/report, possible eyesight offence which if taken to Court, OK ignore the monetaty punishment on Gran, the Court has the power to disqualify driver until such time as test passed. Fairly immediate and which in this case she will be unlikely to pass. Writing a letter (to whom?) DVLA to invoke their Medical procedures will take yonks. Meanwhile Ms Di Saster continues her merry ways creating havoc.
...and only one PC required to deal with this, not a fifty odd squad of the rubber heel squad.
Nannyfudging at its best.
dvd
vonhosen said:
yep the Police are only interested nowadays if theres money to be made, ie no money in solving murders so lets go persecute the Motorist again
Yeah right
A huge amount of resources (hours & money) are invested in solving murders. So much so that it led to a detection rate of 98% for all cases of murder, manslaughter & infanticide in 2004/5.
>> Edited by vonhosen on Friday 19th May 22:48
That figure you quote there sound like a complete load of shite to me given that TVP East has an overall detection rate of 26.3% last year
Sean
srebbe64 said:
Earlier this week an old lady from a local old folks home drove into the back of my wife's parked car and drove off without stopping. The wife's car was written off. Fortunately a witness followed the culprit all the way to her abode, and also made a note of both her address and her numberplate. We are of the view that as well as leaving the scene of the accident the culprit in question also has really bad eyesight and shouldn't be driving. In fact, wifie and I took the pragmatic view that at least she damaged a car and not a pedestrian - and we assumed she'd be called to task and probably banned.
However, I spoke to the copper tonight and he said all they're gonna do is write a strongly worded letter to her demanding that she admits liability and informs her insurance company. I asked why they wouldn't pursue it, bearing in mind (1) she left the scene of an accident; (2) we reckon she shouldn't be driving because of (suspected) bad eyesight. He simply said it's not worth their while.
Personally, I reckon getting a few of these half blind coffin-dodgers off the road is a little bit more of a public service that catching some poor sod on a camera who's doing 35 mph.
I would write to the Chief of Police in that area as well as the Police complaints commission.
Sean
NugentS said:
Earlier this week an old lady from a local old folks home drove into the back of my wife's parked car and drove off without stopping. The wife's car was written off. Fortunately a witness followed the culprit all the way to her abode, and also made a note of both her address and her numberplate. We are of the view that as well as leaving the scene of the accident the culprit in question also has really bad eyesight and shouldn't be driving. In fact, wifie and I took the pragmatic view that at least she damaged a car and not a pedestrian - and we assumed she'd be called to task and probably banned.
However, I spoke to the copper tonight and he said all they're gonna do is write a strongly worded letter to her demanding that she admits liability and informs her insurance company. I asked why they wouldn't pursue it, bearing in mind (1) she left the scene of an accident; (2) we reckon she shouldn't be driving because of (suspected) bad eyesight. He simply said it's not worth their while.
Personally, I reckon getting a few of these half blind coffin-dodgers off the road is a little bit more of a public service that catching some poor sod on a camera who's doing 35 mph.
I would write to the Chief of Police in that area as well as the Police complaints commission.
Sean
And the local press
Dwight VanDriver said:
Shakes head in disbelief... modern policing?
At law there appears to be a stone wall due care, fail to stop/report, possible eyesight offence which if taken to Court, OK ignore the monetaty punishment on Gran, the Court has the power to disqualify driver until such time as test passed. Fairly immediate and which in this case she will be unlikely to pass. Writing a letter (to whom?) DVLA to invoke their Medical procedures will take yonks. Meanwhile Ms Di Saster continues her merry ways creating havoc.
...and only one PC required to deal with this, not a fifty odd squad of the rubber heel squad.
Nannyfudging at its best.
dvd
I live in a very rural part of Norfolk. The duffers and the incompetent are far more of a problem here than nutters ; in fact you very rarely see a speeding nutter (talking 90+ here) on our Dual Carriageways.
The dodderers however are another thing altogether. It appears to be getting significantly worse, mostly due I suspect to increasing numbers of pensioners and their increasing ages. They either don't seem to recognise you or assume you drive at 25 mph - people driving at 25 mph seems to be a common occurrence. The nutters are at least predictable ; the dodderers will simply drive at you for no apparent reason.
There is (or seems to be anyway !) increasing numbers of people going the wrong way on the Norwich bypass.
Neither my Grandmother nor my Wife's Grandmother are fit to drive IMO. My Gran tacitly admits it, and refuses to drive : in town, on anything resembling a main road, after dark, more than about 3 or 4 miles. She drives to the local shop and that's about it. My wife's gran does not and is lethal ; we refuse to get in a car with her.
Is this refusal simply on grounds of age ? I thought driving away from an accident was a criminal offence ?
Boosted LS1 said:
I'd get hold of the officer again and tell him that if he doesn't investigate your complaint about the womans driving you intend to make a formal complaint to the police about his lack of progress.
Boosted.
Then get ready to:
1. Change your car
2. Change your address
if you don't want to find yourself the recipient of a million brownie points on your licence.
BB
vonhosen said:
yep the Police are only interested nowadays if theres money to be made, ie no money in solving murders so lets go persecute the Motorist again
Yeah right
A huge amount of resources (hours & money) are invested in solving murders. So much so that it led to a detection rate of 98% for all cases of murder, manslaughter & infanticide in 2004/5.
>> Edited by vonhosen on Friday 19th May 22:48
It's a parody Vonhosen. (Have you considered you might be slightly autistic ?)
No-one suggests that the Police *ignore* murders. It's an ironic comment on the tendency to go for soft and easy targets.
Having said that I would like to praise my local BiB for a crackdown on the local travelling community at a Horsefair last weekend (more coppers around than I've seen, ever). Well done - hope this is the start of a policy realignment.
vonhosen said:
yep the Police are only interested nowadays if theres money to be made, ie no money in solving murders so lets go persecute the Motorist again
Yeah right
A huge amount of resources (hours & money) are invested in solving murders. So much so that it led to a detection rate of 98% for all cases of murder, manslaughter & infanticide in 2004/5.
>> Edited by vonhosen on Friday 19th May 22:48
Ja .. und several years later - we find they were right to protest their innocence und we end up paying more for appeals und compo..
Ist too many of these cases occurring for comfort now.
WildCat said:
yep the Police are only interested nowadays if theres money to be made, ie no money in solving murders so lets go persecute the Motorist again
Yeah right
A huge amount of resources (hours & money) are invested in solving murders. So much so that it led to a detection rate of 98% for all cases of murder, manslaughter & infanticide in 2004/5.
>> Edited by vonhosen on Friday 19th May 22:48
Ja .. und several years later - we find they were right to protest their innocence und we end up paying more for appeals und compo..
Ist too many of these cases occurring for comfort now.
What tangent we going for now ?
srebbe64 said:
Earlier this week an old lady from a local old folks home drove into the back of my wife's parked car and drove off without stopping. The wife's car was written off. Fortunately a witness followed the culprit all the way to her abode, and also made a note of both her address and her numberplate. We are of the view that as well as leaving the scene of the accident the culprit in question also has really bad eyesight and shouldn't be driving. In fact, wifie and I took the pragmatic view that at least she damaged a car and not a pedestrian - and we assumed she'd be called to task and probably banned.
However, I spoke to the copper tonight and he said all they're gonna do is write a strongly worded letter to her demanding that she admits liability and informs her insurance company. I asked why they wouldn't pursue it, bearing in mind (1) she left the scene of an accident; (2) we reckon she shouldn't be driving because of (suspected) bad eyesight. He simply said it's not worth their while.
Personally, I reckon getting a few of these half blind coffin-dodgers off the road is a little bit more of a public service that catching some poor sod on a camera who's doing 35 mph.
I think I would be writing to Chief Constable und the press about this. Ist not case of being horrid to an old lady - but case of preventing old lady from killing self und others. I am sure a magistrate would not jail or fine her..given the age und circumstance in this pee cee age of "protecting the vulnerable" - but insurers need to know to fix damage to both cars
autismuk said:
yep the Police are only interested nowadays if theres money to be made, ie no money in solving murders so lets go persecute the Motorist again
Yeah right
A huge amount of resources (hours & money) are invested in solving murders. So much so that it led to a detection rate of 98% for all cases of murder, manslaughter & infanticide in 2004/5.
>> Edited by vonhosen on Friday 19th May 22:48
It's a parody Vonhosen. (Have you considered you might be slightly autistic ?)
No-one suggests that the Police *ignore* murders. It's an ironic comment on the tendency to go for soft and easy targets.
Having said that I would like to praise my local BiB for a crackdown on the local travelling community at a Horsefair last weekend (more coppers around than I've seen, ever). Well done - hope this is the start of a policy realignment.
But the point remains that it's still a load of cobblers.
Very few Police resources (officer hours or money) are used for static speed enforcement, no matter how many times it's alleged here that the Police are concentrating on getting speeders (soft targets) at the expense of "real" criminals.
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