Anyone else having a bad year ?
Anyone else having a bad year ?
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beaublack

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583 posts

262 months

Sunday 21st May 2006
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Just need to share !!

I seem to have been struggling forever this year - right back to June of last year when we took on a large contract we should not have done ( hindsight ) When you experience losses you tend to chase turnover to cover overheads, the alternative of cutting costs (staff) seems negative, gives off the wrong signals to your clients and is a waste of the resources you expended on training / recruitment over the years. Trying to stabilise the business and recover enough operating capital to cushion against any further knocks has been all I have done for the last 10 months. Cash flow becomes critical and it is infuriating to have to spend additional money on Debt Recovery and Contract Insurance that could be invested back into the Company. The hardest part is staying positive myself - the Staff require motivating and need to feel good about their work, but they are aware that things are hard and are not getting the usual investment in training, vehicles and plant etc. Many people I talk to report business as slow but having run ours for over 10 years this feels as competitive as it has ever been. I am considering options before I burn out. Sell up and do something else - or restructure completely, cut out the loss elements and concentrate on the bits that work. This makes sense other than the fact that a third of the company would be made redundant - which would not be cheap, and the biggest one of all is that the company is well established in the industry (80 years) and there would be definite loss of sales issues. To date I have not reduced my income but I have put my own money back in - I am in the Office for 6am and away by 7pm - so yes it does become a bit of an odsession that impacts on the family - I plan to give it 6 more months for a turnaround ... and then it is decision time ....

there feel better now !!

voyds9

8,490 posts

307 months

Sunday 21st May 2006
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Stick with it, it will get better.
Just read your profile are you the same bloke who sold me some patient recall software or have you just stolen his name

GTWayne

4,595 posts

241 months

Sunday 21st May 2006
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It has been a strange year so far.First three months where the the most profitable in the companies history but since then things have taken a nose dive.In the past ,pals have seen lean spells but they never seemed to catch up with me.Must just be my turn.Unfortunately I don't feel any better for having said that but at least you know that there are now two spaces occupied in that boat your sailing!

beaublack

Original Poster:

583 posts

262 months

Sunday 21st May 2006
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voyds9 said:
Stick with it, it will get better.
Just read your profile are you the same bloke who sold me some patient recall software or have you just stolen his name


Thanks for that ..no we don't do software ... but the idea of theft has crossed my mind

srebbe64

13,021 posts

261 months

Sunday 21st May 2006
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Obviously I don't know the details, but I'd be inclined to be more radical. I'd look at my probable income and then cut my costs to, say, 90% of that. You can manage the perception as far as clients go, so I wouldn't let the tail wag the dog.

Don

28,378 posts

308 months

Sunday 21st May 2006
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We've been "enjoying" a "challenging" year ourselves.

Loads of Sales and R&D investment has been going in this last six months...not a lot bearing fruit until a few days ago. Finally we have some firm orders and a few more statements of intent.

Also shit because we ARE restructuring the business at the moment...and we will be running to stand still for the next few months in terms of servicing our bespoke software development obligations (at least revenue generating) and still completing our R&D project that we have to get done in order to make sales next year.

Would I do something else? Not today. But there have been times...

aceparts_com

3,724 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd May 2006
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We go through this on a weekly basis. I often dream of simply keeping the currently very profitable parts of the business and working from home for 3 hours a week but then remember the bigger picture. I try and look at all the 'not so great' bits of the business as opportunity costs.
In fact, I was very close to knocking it on the head before christmas but this year we're exceeded last years turnover in just 3 months.

When you're down the only way is up

POORCARDEALER

8,640 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd May 2006
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we seem to work 10% harder every year for the same result.

beaublack

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583 posts

262 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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srebbe64 said:
Obviously I don't know the details, but I'd be inclined to be more radical. I'd look at my probable income and then cut my costs to, say, 90% of that. You can manage the perception as far as clients go, so I wouldn't let the tail wag the dog.


Interesting that ... in January we did shed some jobs most volunarily about 1/8th of staff - we did not advertise it but word did get out and some clients clearly took advantage of what they saw as an opportunity to delay payment, part pay or just raise notional queries. I guess if you can learn lessons it is about who you want to trade with or not - if you have the luxury of choosing your clients.

aceparts_com said:
We go through this on a weekly basis. I often dream of simply keeping the currently very profitable parts of the business and working from home for 3 hours a week but then remember the bigger picture. I try and look at all the 'not so great' bits of the business as opportunity costs.
In fact, I was very close to knocking it on the head before christmas but this year we're exceeded last years turnover in just 3 months.

When you're down the only way is up


That has got to be the attitude to have - succesful people see opportunity everywhere and seem unphased by setbacks - because they keep the focus on the bigger picture and are driven to make things happen .. I seem to find myself tinkering right now - whereas I could do with focusing my energies in a more positive direction.

mrandy

828 posts

242 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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This year is awful and impossible to predict month by month order intake,i was at seminar in Germany last week and its the same over there .
All you can do is keep your chin up and keep fighting.......

MarkoTVR

1,139 posts

258 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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Had a few quiet months so far this year, seems to be getting better now though. Having said that, I've invested in another opportunity in a different business sector so as not to be at the mercy of any one particular area.

mikeyboy

5,018 posts

259 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2006
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I know the first year is never supposed to be easy but I'm five months in and I've just one piece of income and the next isn't due for 5 months yet. Lots of promises for the end of the year, but nothing concrete and you can't live on promises. May have to go back to working for some of the morons that run my industry.

BliarsGoing

72,863 posts

263 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Holy thread resurrection

So how is everyone finding business as this year has gone on? Are a lot of businesses facing a quiet period still? Just trying to get a handle on the state of the economy and make a few important decisions about trying to go it alone etc.

Eric Mc

124,829 posts

289 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Busier than ever - but cash flow not as positive as in previous years. People are taking longer to settle their debts.

BliarsGoing

72,863 posts

263 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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So have a good cushion available if I do decide to go it alone....

minornut

1,049 posts

261 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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In the industry I work in, if I have a job at the end of the year I consider it good.

BliarsGoing

72,863 posts

263 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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I know I won't boxedin

minornut

1,049 posts

261 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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But at least IT is not an industry in terminal decline.


Onwards and upwards BlairsGoing!

BliarsGoing

72,863 posts

263 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Eric Mc said:
Busier than ever - but cash flow not as positive as in previous years. People are taking longer to settle their debts.
What's the best way to avoid gettng stung by this? Insist on payment with order for any product that you have to outlay on and only provide credit terms for the labour element? Can businesses stomach those terms generally?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

294 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Quiet start, in the last month though it has gone bananas.

Absolutely no idea why either mind, which is a tad worrying...