YOU ARE NOT GONNA BELIEVE THIS........
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Shit, is the bike still rideable? If so I'd suggest you get back out asap. How did it happen, given the weather at the moment I doubt you'll be the only one who came off over the weekend.
I went out for a blast on Saturday morning and some of the puddles were more like ponds and most of them around bends, absoloutly lethal.
Anyway, chin up.
Phill
I went out for a blast on Saturday morning and some of the puddles were more like ponds and most of them around bends, absoloutly lethal.
Anyway, chin up.
Phill
Can't really blame the conditions....I just went round a left hand bend (country road) too hot, and halfway round, I just kinda froze...Locked up my arms, and hit the old brakes again.
The bike is rideable, but just has pretty bad fairing damage, and engine casing is heavily scratched....... only had it back 36 hours.
I was just sooooo angry....What a wally.
The bike is rideable, but just has pretty bad fairing damage, and engine casing is heavily scratched....... only had it back 36 hours.
I was just sooooo angry....What a wally.
only joking, sorrychilli said:
Can't really blame the conditions....I just went round a left hand bend (country road) too hot, and halfway round, I just kinda froze...Locked up my arms, and hit the old brakes again.
The bike is rideable, but just has pretty bad fairing damage, and engine casing is heavily scratched....... only had it back 36 hours.
I was just sooooo angry....What a wally.
Maybe time to give these guys a shout.
www.superbikeschool.co.uk
Hobo said:
Without stating the obvious, are you sure that there is not a problem with the suspension. You say that you'd recently had it re-done, and then in the space of a few hundred miles have come off it twice.
Doesn't sound suspension related at all - just nerves.
Chilli - I know you're pretty inexperienced, were you riding alone or in a group? Sounds like you could do with following someone for a bit and getting used to taking the bike through corners and not having your hand anywhere near the brake.
Not being funny but maybe it's best you don't get the bike fixed for the time being if it's jsut aesthetic. You might not worry so much if it's not so perfect....just a thought.
I'd be inclined to agree with carrera2, I'm by no means an expert but I never cover the front brake when cornering, If I do over cook it I have been known to roll off the throttle and use a small amount of back brake to slow me down.
Also if the damage is only cosmetic, I'd be inclined to leave it for the time being and perhaps repair it in stages yourself using kit off ebay or similar.
Anyway get yourself back out take it easy and build your confidence up again.
Phill
Also if the damage is only cosmetic, I'd be inclined to leave it for the time being and perhaps repair it in stages yourself using kit off ebay or similar.
Anyway get yourself back out take it easy and build your confidence up again.
Phill
Time to stop riding like a numpty and slow down untill you gain some skill/experience.
Had you bike back how long after you last crash.
Can i suggest 3rd time may not be lucky and you might end up dead.
Try and ride within your limits eh....
Trade in and get yourself a slower bike and learn to ride.
Have you phoned the insurance company?
Had you bike back how long after you last crash.
Can i suggest 3rd time may not be lucky and you might end up dead.
Try and ride within your limits eh....
Trade in and get yourself a slower bike and learn to ride.
Have you phoned the insurance company?
That's the thing though..... I know exactly what I did wrong, it was the same as last time! However, I appear to be unable to determine how tight the bends are. I've been tought about the vanishing point around a corner etc, and I understand it, but there just seems to be so much going on, I can't seem to get the hang of it.
I was riding with my neighbour who I'm going to Spain with, as he's a qualified observer...He actually said that he thought I was getting over confident in the bends, but I was just enjoying myself...Having just learnt to relax my arms, and let the bike do the work.
Also a good point someone brought up earlier....I reckon I'm cornering in the weong gear, as I'm generally off the throttle when cornering, therefore don't have much engine braking capability should things go t!ts up.
Hobo, what kinda revs are you at through the twisties??
Cheers.
I was riding with my neighbour who I'm going to Spain with, as he's a qualified observer...He actually said that he thought I was getting over confident in the bends, but I was just enjoying myself...Having just learnt to relax my arms, and let the bike do the work.
Also a good point someone brought up earlier....I reckon I'm cornering in the weong gear, as I'm generally off the throttle when cornering, therefore don't have much engine braking capability should things go t!ts up.
Hobo, what kinda revs are you at through the twisties??
Cheers.
Its very easy for people to say 'do this' or 'do that'. But it does sound like it may be inexperience that is catching you out. I'm no expert... But if I'm not sure of a road or where a corner is going, the first time I ride the road I am Miss Daisy, you can go quicker when you know it.
As has been said I never cover the front brake in cornering as thats asking for trouble. Get the bike out on a straight bit of road or car park and practice counter steering. 9 times out of 10 if you are too hot into a corner it will get you out of trouble but you have to be able to trust it so actively go and practice. Sainsbury's always have good practice areas.
Finally, why not consider putting the R6 away for a bit and go for a cheap 400. if you can fit on them they will teach you all you need to know about cornering. I have an FZR400RR which I take out and blast and its amazing just what you can do on it. I have just got a Triumph 955 Daytona. The experience on the 400 has already helped tame the Triumph a bit.
This is all meant positively, right buggar when you come off and this weekend the weather was utter poo... Chin up!
As has been said I never cover the front brake in cornering as thats asking for trouble. Get the bike out on a straight bit of road or car park and practice counter steering. 9 times out of 10 if you are too hot into a corner it will get you out of trouble but you have to be able to trust it so actively go and practice. Sainsbury's always have good practice areas.
Finally, why not consider putting the R6 away for a bit and go for a cheap 400. if you can fit on them they will teach you all you need to know about cornering. I have an FZR400RR which I take out and blast and its amazing just what you can do on it. I have just got a Triumph 955 Daytona. The experience on the 400 has already helped tame the Triumph a bit.
This is all meant positively, right buggar when you come off and this weekend the weather was utter poo... Chin up!
Depends as to what speed the corners are to what revs surely ? I mean a fast corner may see you going through it at near maximum revs, whereas a 1st gear tight bend may be only 3k.
No throttle ? Surely if you're going some, then you sure at worst have a neutral throttle through the bend, winding it on as the corner opens.
I do admit though, it is really easy to get suckered into a corner way too quick. Done it a couple of times on road myself. Luckily enough have stayed calm & just pushed on the bar & the bikes tightened up (crapped myself after though).
I'm going to do the Cali Superbike School course hopefully June time (better weather hopefully). Interested in tagging along ?
No throttle ? Surely if you're going some, then you sure at worst have a neutral throttle through the bend, winding it on as the corner opens.
I do admit though, it is really easy to get suckered into a corner way too quick. Done it a couple of times on road myself. Luckily enough have stayed calm & just pushed on the bar & the bikes tightened up (crapped myself after though).
I'm going to do the Cali Superbike School course hopefully June time (better weather hopefully). Interested in tagging along ?
Hobo said:
Depends as to what speed the corners are to what revs surely ? I mean a fast corner may see you going through it at near maximum revs, whereas a 1st gear tight bend may be only 3k.
No throttle ? Surely if you're going some, then you sure at worst have a neutral throttle through the bend, winding it on as the corner opens.
I do admit though, it is really easy to get suckered into a corner way too quick. Done it a couple of times on road myself. Luckily enough have stayed calm & just pushed on the bar & the bikes tightened up (crapped myself after though).
I'm going to do the Cali Superbike School course hopefully June time (better weather hopefully). Interested in tagging along ?
Hmmm....I reckon this corner was more or less a right angle. But should have been helped by the engine braking, but think I grabbed the clutch and front brake as a matter of instinct! I was told I'd have probably got away with it had I just counter steered a bit more, and left the b!oody levers alone.
That's the key, I think....Stay clam...I didn't. All experience is good experience, I suppose I was lucky nothing was coming the other way... and the bike is runing fine.
I'm well up for the superbike school, but I'm away for most of June.....Keep me in mind when you're gonna book it though, and I'll let you know. Thanks for the invite.
Cheers.
chilli said:
Hmmm....I reckon this corner was more or less a right angle. But should have been helped by the engine braking, but think I grabbed the clutch and front brake as a matter of instinct! I was told I'd have probably got away with it had I just counter steered a bit more, and left the b!oody levers alone.
Thats your problem!!! Do not go anywhere near the levers!!! I can kind of understand panic braking but the clutch!!!!
Also, engine braking in the corner should'nt make that much difference. You need to get the bike at a decent pace for the corner before you are in it, then you can go round and if it opens earlier accelerate through it but if it tightens a bit of counter steering is all that is needed.
I remember my instructor saying to regard all corners that you can't see immidiately through as 90 degree'ers... That way you should'nt get too caught out. Also nothing wrong with being slow in...
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