satellite monitoring
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was reading a post about driving in france and flemke made a good point converning satellite monitoring.
i too have been thinking about it and it really seems inevitable to happen. the technology exists and is not all that expensive to implement into cars. it will simply do away with the need to have speed cameras anywhere. you spped can be monitored easily and with very simple software you can obviously be done anytime anyplace anywhere.
this will have tremendous repercussions for all road users. it could in theory be the most effective way to reduce 90% of all traffic, as everyone speeds at one point or another at some point. how are the thresholds of speeding tolerances going to be redefined?
i too have been thinking about it and it really seems inevitable to happen. the technology exists and is not all that expensive to implement into cars. it will simply do away with the need to have speed cameras anywhere. you spped can be monitored easily and with very simple software you can obviously be done anytime anyplace anywhere.
this will have tremendous repercussions for all road users. it could in theory be the most effective way to reduce 90% of all traffic, as everyone speeds at one point or another at some point. how are the thresholds of speeding tolerances going to be redefined?
I read an article in MCN recently concerning plans to introduce new chipped numberplates under the guise of preventing number plate theft/crime...with readers along the side of the road ... any plate not with the chip get reported and speed data would be available from the sensors ... A nail in the coffin for performance motoring in the UK ... Be very afraid ...
bluepolarbear said:And what would prevent a British Gov't from ignoring the directive? Zilch.
Has nothing to do with Labour - The use of satellite tracking is implemented under European directive. Who ever is in power is forced to implement.
What would the Brussels louts do in response - shake their wine glasses in indignation?
This is not to say that a British gov't would defy its Brussels masters. That seems increasingly unlikely even for a Conservative gov't. But they could do, with ease.
It will, I daresay, take a very long time before the D-roads of the French countryside suffer from 100% ANPR coverage. The thing to do for PHers will be to go in thousands to Frogland for fun driving. The boost to the Frog economy would cause them gleefully to look the other way.
This dreadful, sickening and outrageous act of tyranny does seem to be inevitable for Europe.
In the States - forget it. Most Americans actually value liberty; not so here, where the populace seem to view liberty as something that the political master race can use to reward or punish however they see fit.
Edited by flemke on Saturday 3rd June 18:45
bluepolarbear said:
Has nothing to do with Labour - The use of satellite tracking is implemented under European directive. Who ever is in power is forced to implement.
Nonsense. No-one else bothers with most of the Euro directives, why should we ?
New Stalinists just want the control freakery junk, and want to blame it on Europe.
Parrot of Doom said:
A GPS receiver is basically a radio receiver. All radio receivers can be easily overpowered by a localised transmitter, even on very low power outputs, and on different frequencies.
Its like trying to listen to English dialogue with a Frenchman shouting down your ear.
And I saw an article on the net including circuit diagrams of how to build one.
bluepolarbear said:
Has nothing to do with Labour - The use of satellite tracking is implemented under European directive. Who ever is in power is forced to implement.
flemke said:
And what would prevent a British Gov't from ignoring the directive? Zilch.
What would the Brussels louts do in response - shake their wine glasses in indignation?
This is not to say that a British gov't would defy its Brussels masters. That seems increasingly unlikely even for a Conservative gov't. But they could do, with ease.
autismuk said:
Nonsense. No-one else bothers with most of the Euro directives, why should we ? New Stalinists just want the control freakery junk, and want to blame it on Europe.
Failure to implement results in a bad mark in our school report. While a number of countries I believe France is the worse, ignore these judgements - Britain tends not to.
History shows that we generally implement all the directives and also in full. Not implement a directive is an act of defiance and not a choice - we have all ready agreed to implement any directive as part of the process for defining the directive.
While you faith in parliment is admirable - it isn't bourne out by history.
bluepolarbear said:That's understood. When it comes to being led around by Brussels, the British have been particularly docile.
Failure to implement results in a bad mark in our school report. While a number of countries I believe France is the worse, ignore these judgements - Britain tends not to.
History shows that we generally implement all the directives and also in full. Not implement a directive is an act of defiance and not a choice - we have all ready agreed to implement any directive as part of the process for defining the directive.
The point was that there is no need for this habit or mentality of obeisance.
What would you expect Brussels to do if Britain were to ignore some idiotic totalitarian directive to monitor every vehicle's movements via satellite? Would the EU invade Britain? Launch a missile strike? Of course they would do no such thing.
At worst they would fine Britain, but considering that Britain is a net payer to the EU, that threat would be a hollow one.
Public denunciation? That would be nothing more than empty words from morally and intellectually empty people.
Worst case: the EU would negotiate with Britain, in an effort to bring the obstinate British "to their senses". That process would take a few years, which would be a few years during which the British had proudly stood up for their rights, and remained free from this tyrannical nonsense.
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